1 00:00:06,389 --> 00:00:02,629 [Music] 2 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:06,399 these days so many podcast hosts just 3 00:00:11,669 --> 00:00:09,360 riff through unprepared segments until 4 00:00:14,629 --> 00:00:11,679 they get to the next ad break for pills 5 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:14,639 they know nothing about cheap razors and 6 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:16,880 whatever else they can get a buck from 7 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:19,279 but the higher side chats does it 8 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:20,400 differently 9 00:00:25,990 --> 00:00:23,359 we succeed or fail on the quality of the 10 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:26,000 content and your desire to hear more of 11 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:28,960 it so you're about to hear another free 12 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:30,400 first hour episode 13 00:00:34,709 --> 00:00:32,640 that's here to prove that two hour shows 14 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:34,719 are worth subscribing for 15 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:37,680 five shows a month for just eight 16 00:00:41,430 --> 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00:01:22,720 recover from its troubled times well 33 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:25,200 we're far from 1930 and i deal with a 34 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:27,840 different kind of fire for a new era of 35 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:30,400 worldly frustration we offer a fresh 36 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:34,240 conversation i'm greg carlwood and these 37 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,280 are the higher side chats 38 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:39,600 what a world people from sunny san diego 39 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,680 i'm greg carlwood and the dial has been 40 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,439 turned up to 11 the screws are 41 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,119 tightening and the pot of water is 42 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:47,520 starting to boil if a person doesn't see 43 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:49,360 the signs of the times now then they're 44 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:51,280 probably destined to take their climate 45 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:53,119 change throttled electric car to their 46 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:55,680 metaverse cubicle job eat a satisfying 47 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,600 bowl of bugs and an all-too-short lunch 48 00:02:02,149 --> 00:01:59,680 break scan their social credit 49 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,159 controlled id at the lab-made meat shop 50 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:04,000 paid for with their allotted central 51 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:05,920 bank digital currency and then make it 52 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:08,000 home just in time to get a few hours of 53 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:10,160 shut-eye in their emf irradiated smart 54 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:12,640 pod before it starts all over again 55 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,840 tomorrow 56 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,599 this is the disturbing wet dream of the 57 00:02:19,830 --> 00:02:17,760 parasite class and if we want something 58 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:19,840 different it's time to get serious about 59 00:02:24,309 --> 00:02:22,319 engaging with real solutions and not 60 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,319 just distracting ourselves with new lord 61 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:26,000 of the rings and game of thrones shows 62 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:28,800 while hoping it somehow brushes by us 63 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:30,640 well there are few people out there 64 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:32,640 developing and supporting as wide a 65 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:34,879 range of solution oriented projects as 66 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:37,040 my main man derek bros 67 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:39,360 he's updating and expanding his holistic 68 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:41,200 self-assessment putting together really 69 00:02:45,509 --> 00:02:43,200 effective educational material with the 70 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:45,519 pyramid of power series giving 71 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:47,519 inspirational speeches all over this 72 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:49,680 island earth organizing the annual 73 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:52,400 greater reset conference continuing to 74 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:53,920 build the freedom cells network and in 75 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:56,160 the very near future providing the model 76 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:58,080 for a free and sustainable community 77 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:00,080 with the conscious agora 78 00:03:03,630 --> 00:03:01,920 you can find out about all this and more 79 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:03,640 at his main hub the 80 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:05,200 theconsciousresistance.com and it is a 81 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:06,720 real pleasure to have him back for a 82 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:09,680 third time the man focused on proactive 83 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:11,599 solutions to a growing cascade of 84 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,519 problems he's beautiful he's powerful 85 00:03:17,190 --> 00:03:15,360 and he's free derrick bros welcome back 86 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:17,200 to the higher side man 87 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:19,680 hey thank you brother that was epic epic 88 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:22,319 and true all around appreciate it 89 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:25,280 you got it man i am always so impressed 90 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:27,360 with how much you're doing you really 91 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:29,519 are a shining example of what's needed 92 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:31,680 if we want to build a better world and 93 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:34,239 just how much of a positive impact one 94 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:35,760 person can make 95 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:38,000 and kind of along those lines of turning 96 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:40,480 a negative into a positive having you 97 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:42,400 back was bound to happen anyway but the 98 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:44,720 catalyst was a weird twitter meltdown 99 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:47,200 from allison mcdowell whose research i 100 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:48,959 have a lot of respect for she's always 101 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,799 seemed like a nice person to me up until 102 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:53,280 that point but she just unloaded on me 103 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:55,439 for accepting crypto as payment for the 104 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:58,159 extended show but the reality is that if 105 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:00,560 you're using platforms like twitter or 106 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:02,640 using the banking system in the dollar 107 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:04,560 maybe you just shouldn't throw stones 108 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:06,080 because nobody is perfect and none of 109 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:08,239 these tools are perfect but apparently 110 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,000 the two of you had a similar clash i 111 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:11,680 understand 112 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,760 yeah man that's well for one i'll say 113 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:15,840 it's unfortunate to see someone such as 114 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,239 yourself who i think is just all around 115 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:20,239 a genuinely good person who is just you 116 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,680 know doing great work and bringing that 117 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:23,440 to the people 118 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:25,440 but it's not surprising you know i i did 119 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:27,680 have my own over the last two years kind 120 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:29,759 of back and forth with allison and not 121 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:31,759 even because it was something i wanted 122 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:33,600 it was sort of similar to your situation 123 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,240 in the sense of it more like happened to 124 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,479 you than you know you actively being 125 00:04:43,030 --> 00:04:40,720 involved and it started because of 126 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,040 similar things with as you said i do 127 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:45,440 respect a lot of allison's work and i 128 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:47,840 appreciate much of it to the point that 129 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:49,360 she was going to originally be involved 130 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:51,120 in the pyramid of power documentary 131 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:52,960 series we had agreed to that 132 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:55,520 we had a mutual appreciation respect for 133 00:04:59,670 --> 00:04:57,520 native activist john trudeau and had 134 00:05:01,430 --> 00:04:59,680 communicated about that and then one day 135 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:01,440 i get a message from somebody saying 136 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:03,120 alison's saying this thing or that thing 137 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,960 about you and i you know went to twitter 138 00:05:08,710 --> 00:05:06,400 and went to facebook and realized that 139 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:08,720 myself and john the creators the 140 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:10,320 founders of the freedom cell network 141 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:13,520 were both blocked while she began to 142 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:15,600 just basically libel us and and claim 143 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:17,440 things that are not true about 144 00:05:21,590 --> 00:05:19,919 just trying to i think draw for whatever 145 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:21,600 reason i don't claim to know but trying 146 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,680 to create doubt in people's minds about 147 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,440 our intentions or who we are or what the 148 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,280 freedom cell network's about which to my 149 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:29,199 mind is like wow okay we're out here 150 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,720 creating and promoting solutions 151 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,720 actively helping bring people together 152 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:34,320 and someone else who's out there doing 153 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:36,880 good research as well is choosing to use 154 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:39,039 the platform they have to attack us so 155 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:40,960 it just seemed like a whole waste of 156 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:43,520 time and it was around of course 157 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:45,520 blockchain crypto related stuff you know 158 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:46,960 i've done plenty of investigations and 159 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:49,600 reports on the dangers of both 160 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:51,120 blockchain and 161 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,240 obviously central bank digital 162 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,560 currencies and things like that but also 163 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:56,000 like yourself you know i take and 164 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:58,880 receive crypto payments you know for me 165 00:06:02,150 --> 00:06:01,039 it's allowed me to operate without a 166 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,160 bank like you mentioned the banking 167 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:04,319 system i haven't used a bank since 2008 168 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:07,520 and a big part of that from 2012 on has 169 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:09,520 been crypto being able to receive crypto 170 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,960 for my journalism and 171 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:12,800 either hold on to it and potentially 172 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:15,360 gain value with it or you know sell it 173 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:16,960 to get fiat to pay rent or whatever i 174 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:18,800 need to do so that's allowed me to 175 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:20,720 transact value with people receive 176 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:23,039 support whenever places like paypal 177 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,120 patreon or the banks you know want to 178 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:27,360 try to limit our ability so i can kind 179 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:28,800 of look at it objectively and see like 180 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,919 yeah there's some really worrisome 181 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:31,199 things here there's some things i don't 182 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:33,280 agree with but there's also lots of 183 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:34,479 benefits and 184 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:36,319 allison and her 185 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:37,919 crowd of folks seem to be incapable of 186 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:40,960 doing that and myself and the greater 187 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:43,360 reset we extended a invitation to her 188 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:45,440 even and said come share your 189 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:47,199 concerns that's not a debate but a 190 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:48,639 discussion let's hear what you have to 191 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:49,840 say about these things and we'll also 192 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:51,680 have speakers talking about the benefits 193 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:54,080 of those or the potential benefits she 194 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:55,440 declined she didn't want to be involved 195 00:06:59,749 --> 00:06:57,199 and instead has like chosen to spend the 196 00:07:01,430 --> 00:06:59,759 last year attacking myself and as she 197 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:01,440 has done with other people so you know 198 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:03,520 there's much more i think bigger issues 199 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:05,280 at hand but it's just unfortunate to see 200 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:07,280 somebody who is doing good work out 201 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:08,400 there 202 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:10,240 kind of i think shooting themselves in 203 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:12,080 the foot by attacking people and not 204 00:07:15,830 --> 00:07:13,840 really even attacking from a point of 205 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:15,840 like here's evidence of somebody being a 206 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:17,440 bad person like you said more just sort 207 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:19,520 of making judgments about 208 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:20,960 the way people live their lives you know 209 00:07:24,309 --> 00:07:22,880 i don't use a bank account i could be 210 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:24,319 that way and be like oh you're all full 211 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:25,680 of it this and that why are you using 212 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:27,120 this and that but i don't think it's 213 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:28,479 productive you know i think that's not 214 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:31,120 really a way to try to be an example or 215 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:32,800 to model 216 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:34,560 better behavior by just attacking other 217 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:36,160 people especially as you like when you 218 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:38,080 mentioned when you're still using the 219 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:40,240 banks or youtube or twitter or whatever 220 00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:41,840 but then you're like oh attack everybody 221 00:07:46,629 --> 00:07:45,199 who uses a blockchain platform 222 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:46,639 i'm right there with you we're totally 223 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:49,440 on the same page in terms of crypto and 224 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:52,080 just it's as mundane a tool as a hammer 225 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:53,919 you can build someone a house or bash 226 00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:56,160 their head in and yeah it's just another 227 00:08:02,629 --> 00:07:59,280 tool and of course crypto and blockchain 228 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:02,639 technology is a part of the technocratic 229 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:05,599 dystopia but so is the internet itself 230 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:07,960 and if i didn't get into bitcoin back in 231 00:08:12,550 --> 00:08:10,479 2014 when i was really struggling as a 232 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:12,560 gamestop store manager i probably 233 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:14,720 wouldn't have had the cushion i needed 234 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:17,039 to make the leap to get out of that job 235 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:19,680 and do this full time that was like a a 236 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:23,039 plan b safety net that existed and it's 237 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:25,360 just it's been amazing for me and you 238 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:28,000 know there are so many decentralized and 239 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:30,800 privacy based crypto projects out there 240 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,399 that to say they're all bad is as 241 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:34,560 simple-minded as saying all websites are 242 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:36,800 bad yeah and i just think it's sad to 243 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:38,080 see a person who does really good 244 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:40,000 research behave like that you got to 245 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:42,000 treat people with respect and don't be 246 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:44,240 judgmental of others who are trying to 247 00:08:49,430 --> 00:08:46,560 do good things just because they don't 248 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:49,440 do them exactly to your standard is such 249 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:51,839 a basic principle that someone with 250 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:53,760 twice as much time on the planet to work 251 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:55,279 on themselves as us 252 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:56,880 should know better but these are 253 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:58,880 stressful times man and i'm seeing folks 254 00:09:03,269 --> 00:09:01,680 lash out in all sorts of unbecoming ways 255 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:03,279 even just 256 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:06,080 reddit pages of public freakouts and 257 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:08,480 fast food establishments and walmart i 258 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:10,800 mean people are acting quite erratic 259 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:12,560 because they are under a ton of stress 260 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,720 and a ton of mind control 261 00:09:18,389 --> 00:09:16,480 yeah absolutely i think they're right 262 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:18,399 there's plenty of reason to be 263 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:20,640 compassionate and empathetic towards 264 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:22,000 everybody at the moment we're all 265 00:09:25,509 --> 00:09:23,200 dealing with some really intense 266 00:09:26,949 --> 00:09:25,519 situations which i think is why these 267 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:26,959 kind of conversations are important i 268 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:27,839 know we're going to cover a lot of 269 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:31,120 ground today and solutions are just 270 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:33,120 more essential than ever 271 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:34,720 absolutely and i definitely want to move 272 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:37,040 on from the negative but i'm glad we 273 00:09:40,389 --> 00:09:38,640 could do this again regardless of what 274 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:40,399 crazy circumstance brought us back 275 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:42,880 together and what i'm most excited about 276 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:44,800 is what you're calling the conscious 277 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:47,680 agora a real freedom-based sustainable 278 00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:49,839 community in mexico i believe with big 279 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,440 plans down the line to create a 280 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:53,760 cross-border community it's really 281 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:55,680 impressive and really ambitious but 282 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:58,240 what's going on with this project 283 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:59,839 yeah man i appreciate the opportunity to 284 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:01,920 talk about that actually i just got back 285 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:04,480 from spending the night at the 286 00:10:07,990 --> 00:10:06,880 land that we are hoping to do this 287 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:08,000 project on 288 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:10,320 so i moved to mexico i'm originally from 289 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:11,279 houston 290 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:13,760 texas and i moved to mexico 291 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:15,440 right at the start of all the coveted 292 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:18,079 insanity march 2020 like you know i knew 293 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:20,240 what was coming and whenever the 294 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:21,600 government starts talking about 295 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:23,680 restricting interstate travel that's 296 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:25,440 always been a sort of red line for me 297 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:28,320 you know i think it's important in our 298 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:30,399 line of thinking or work however you 299 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:32,240 want to think about it to have a red 300 00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:33,519 line for yourself like things that 301 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:35,120 you're just not willing to accept you 302 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,720 know because the way this incrementalism 303 00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:38,720 works it sort of wears you down and you 304 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:40,800 get used to things that maybe you would 305 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:42,399 have never accepted in the past because 306 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:43,519 you just kind of gradually get 307 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:45,120 comfortable with it so that i think it's 308 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:46,640 important to have those red lines to 309 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:48,079 reflect so that you can be like wait 310 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:49,440 here it is here's that thing i said i 311 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:51,440 would never accept that this would be 312 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:53,760 you know red line for me and then you 313 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,800 know act 314 00:10:59,990 --> 00:10:56,720 appropriately whatever that may mean for 315 00:11:01,350 --> 00:11:00,000 me in march 2020 when we had me and my 316 00:11:03,509 --> 00:11:01,360 partner miriam had just got back to the 317 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,519 u.s after visiting mexico literally 318 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:05,680 within days we're starting here all the 319 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:07,760 panic about covid the grocery stores are 320 00:11:11,590 --> 00:11:09,680 starting to empty out of toilet paper 321 00:11:13,910 --> 00:11:11,600 and all that and then they start talking 322 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:13,920 about checking license plates leaving i 323 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:15,440 think it was new york headed to rhode 324 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:16,720 island it was one of those places when 325 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:18,720 they were saying new york was a hot spot 326 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,800 and i was just like nope nope this is it 327 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:22,399 this is too much for me like we gotta go 328 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:24,959 we gotta go and so we literally packed 329 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:25,839 up 330 00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:28,640 not everything but our first kind of 331 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:30,640 car load of gear and then headed down to 332 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:32,560 the border and my partner she's got 333 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:34,560 family in mexico so our original plan 334 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:36,320 was just like all right let's just get 335 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:37,600 out of the u.s for a minute let's go 336 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:39,279 back and visit your grandpa 337 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:40,320 and 338 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:42,640 take some time to watch this from a 339 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:43,839 distance because i just didn't feel good 340 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:46,000 about watching it within the us being 341 00:11:49,590 --> 00:11:47,920 there actively and then 342 00:11:50,949 --> 00:11:49,600 literally i think a day or two after we 343 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:50,959 crossed the u.s government claimed the 344 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:52,560 border was closed they never closed it 345 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,839 but they actively stated that 346 00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:57,920 anyways we end up coming to morelia 347 00:12:01,590 --> 00:11:59,519 mexico which is in the state of 348 00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:01,600 michoacan which is like central mexico a 349 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,160 couple hours west of mexico city not far 350 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:06,480 from the beach not far from coast and up 351 00:12:09,269 --> 00:12:08,000 in the mountains beautiful weather all 352 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:09,279 the time 353 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:11,040 and i'd never been here didn't know 354 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:12,800 anything about this area but different 355 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:14,480 synchronicity different events brought 356 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:16,720 us here and have kept us here including 357 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,120 meeting real estate agents meeting other 358 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,880 good people and 359 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:22,560 the freedom cell movement has grown in 360 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:24,720 mexico the last two years you know once 361 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:26,880 we came we started the first mexico 362 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:29,200 freedom cell and then so many people 363 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:31,360 were flooding out in mexico from canada 364 00:12:35,829 --> 00:12:34,079 the u.s europe because mexico never 365 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:35,839 enforced any sort of 366 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:38,160 vaccine requirement or testing or 367 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:39,440 quarantine requirement it was one of the 368 00:12:43,269 --> 00:12:41,440 few places over the last two years that 369 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:43,279 never did that so there was a flood of 370 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:44,320 all these people and all these different 371 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:45,760 freedom cells start popping up people 372 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:47,920 start looking for land and that was sort 373 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,839 of the journey we were on miriam and i 374 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:51,600 knew we wanted to build i've had plans 375 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:53,519 for this conscious agora vision since 376 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:56,240 2017 my third book that is part of the 377 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:57,839 conscious resistance trilogy called 378 00:13:01,190 --> 00:12:59,760 manifesto of the free humans is the 379 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:01,200 first place i wrote about this when i 380 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:03,200 was intending to do this in texas 381 00:13:06,389 --> 00:13:05,600 originally but as time progressed i have 382 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:06,399 just 383 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:09,200 developed less of a optimistic viewpoint 384 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,279 on the future of the us you know not 385 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:13,120 giving up so to speak as some like to 386 00:13:16,069 --> 00:13:14,480 think about it you know a lot of my work 387 00:13:18,069 --> 00:13:16,079 is still focused on the us but i just 388 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:18,079 i'm not as optimistic in places like 389 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:19,760 mexico and other places in latin and 390 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,959 central america are quote-unquote behind 391 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:24,720 in terms of technology in a lot of ways 392 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:26,240 and there are benefits to that 393 00:13:30,389 --> 00:13:29,200 especially for my preferred lifestyle so 394 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:30,399 we knew we were going to build this 395 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:32,480 community and we had already decided at 396 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:33,440 some point we were going to do it in 397 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:35,120 mexico 398 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:37,600 covid was just like okay why wait five 399 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:39,040 more years let's just do it let's do it 400 00:13:43,189 --> 00:13:40,399 now let's go to mexico let's start 401 00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:43,199 looking for land and also in 2020 we 402 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:45,120 were going to be doing a permaculture 403 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:47,360 design certification 404 00:13:51,030 --> 00:13:49,440 course in costa rica cove had missed 405 00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:51,040 that up so it ended up being a six month 406 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:53,279 online course but we did get certified 407 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:54,000 to 408 00:13:57,990 --> 00:13:56,000 basically you know teach and do 409 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:58,000 permaculture and learned a whole bunch 410 00:14:01,670 --> 00:13:59,600 and continue to learn these skills and 411 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,680 so the idea was let's come to mexico 412 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:03,360 let's start looking for land so we've 413 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:04,880 been living in morelia now for the last 414 00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:06,160 two years that's where we held the 415 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:07,839 greater reset this year in january and 416 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:10,800 where it'll be at again in january 23. 417 00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:12,560 and we've just been living here in a 418 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:14,480 house while exploring different parts of 419 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:17,199 mexico and like i said i did go visit 420 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:18,639 this property the other day we've been 421 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:20,480 looking at this property for 422 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:22,079 almost the two years that we've been 423 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:24,399 here but we've been taking our time and 424 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:25,760 developing a community you know there's 425 00:14:28,629 --> 00:14:27,120 so many people 426 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:28,639 you see that meme that goes around every 427 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,839 now and then man i'm sure you've seen it 428 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:31,680 it's like the meme of like 429 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:33,600 tag all your friends who want to go live 430 00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:35,360 in the off bridge community out in the 431 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:36,399 country or you know there's like 432 00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:38,000 versions of this meme and it's clearly a 433 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:40,079 popular idea that's within us people 434 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:41,680 want to you know go out and live and 435 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,600 live in the countryside like i think 436 00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:45,360 everybody can res no a lot of people can 437 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,920 resonate with in different ways but 438 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:49,519 there's a lot more than just like hey 439 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:51,360 i'm gonna go get land or let me just get 440 00:14:54,710 --> 00:14:52,800 all my best friends and let's go start a 441 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:54,720 community because 442 00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:55,760 for one 443 00:15:00,230 --> 00:14:57,519 just because we might get along and 444 00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,240 listen to the same podcast or go to the 445 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:01,920 same conferences or festivals or 446 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:03,360 whatever things can bring people 447 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:05,920 together in these varying movements that 448 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:07,120 doesn't necessarily mean you'd want to 449 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:08,560 live with somebody or live on the same 450 00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:10,160 piece of land or even be their neighbor 451 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,160 right there's a lot of we might be 452 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:14,399 united by bodily autonomy or 453 00:15:18,310 --> 00:15:16,800 self-ownership or even just the 454 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:18,320 curiosity about all the crazy things in 455 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:19,680 the world but that doesn't mean that we 456 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:22,000 necessarily have the same guiding values 457 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:23,440 and you know 458 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:25,600 version of what our community would look 459 00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:26,639 like so 460 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:28,480 we've spent the last two years taking 461 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:30,800 that time myself and miriam initially in 462 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:32,399 september 2020 i put the call out 463 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:33,839 through my channels and was like hey i'm 464 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:35,040 going to build a community in mexico 465 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:36,880 this is the vision from my book if 466 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:38,560 you're interested reach out and we had 467 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,959 about 400 people reach out and then we 468 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:42,399 put together like a questionnaire to 469 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,000 help us get to know everybody better and 470 00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:46,160 kind of elaborate on the plan and then 471 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:47,759 we sent that out to all the people who 472 00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:49,920 initially responded and we got about 2 473 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:52,399 300 responses and we narrowed that we 474 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:53,680 put that all in a spreadsheet and 475 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:55,199 basically went through all that info and 476 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,480 like looked at 477 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:58,000 what are the visions of the people here 478 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,160 like do they have a similar vision to us 479 00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:02,720 do they have skills to contribute and or 480 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:04,079 financial resources it wasn't 481 00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:05,440 necessarily like hey you have to have x 482 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,639 amount of dollars we didn't really 483 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:08,399 approach it that way it was like 484 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:10,880 do you get the vision mostly do you have 485 00:16:14,069 --> 00:16:12,959 you know some financial resources and or 486 00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:14,079 do you have 487 00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:15,279 you know skills or something to 488 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:16,800 contribute that's really going to help 489 00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:18,079 the community 490 00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:19,600 and we narrowed that down to 50 people 491 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:22,079 and so starting september 2020 we've 492 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:24,079 started having these bi-weekly online 493 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,320 calls and they've kind of progressed and 494 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:28,240 just over the last two almost two years 495 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,120 now it's naturally gone down to now 496 00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:33,279 five households that we're working on 497 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:35,199 this project with and so i mean we've 498 00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:36,800 learned so much and i'm going to be 499 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:38,079 putting together in the future like a 500 00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:40,399 course on like a webinar some kind of 501 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:42,320 thing about just sharing all the things 502 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,839 i've learned you know some of the things 503 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:45,360 is like there's good books out there 504 00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:46,880 that talk about communities but a lot of 505 00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:48,079 it is you just have to do it you know 506 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:49,759 just like anything you have to make 507 00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:51,839 mistakes and experience and i've seen 508 00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:53,199 people coming out to mexico and making 509 00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:54,639 mistakes people are running away from 510 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,800 tyranny and canada and germany and 511 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:58,320 elsewhere and they come here and these 512 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,839 people might be 513 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,839 pretty well you know financially off and 514 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:03,120 maybe they just emptied their bank 515 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,799 account and they're coming here like in 516 00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,400 a hurry in a panic like i need to find a 517 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,319 community and unfortunately you know 518 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:10,000 these tough times bring out scammers 519 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:11,839 just like any other tough time so 520 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:13,120 there's scammy people who've come to 521 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,720 mexico claiming that they're going to 522 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:15,919 build a community and they're happy to 523 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,760 take your money and that doesn't turn 524 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:19,280 out well and there's other people who as 525 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:20,720 i mentioned they maybe they met at the 526 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:22,480 greater reset or they they met at a 527 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:24,240 freedom cell meetup and so they just 528 00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:25,679 decide like hey let's get land together 529 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,880 and they don't even know each other for 530 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,400 more than a week or a couple of months 531 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,960 and then you know inevitably things go 532 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:33,440 wrong and then they're having to 533 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:35,039 deal with lawyers and all kinds of fun 534 00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:37,360 stuff so we've learned so much and it's 535 00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:39,919 been a process but the idea is 536 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,919 essentially to bring together 537 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:43,760 probably seven to eight households which 538 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,000 is essentially a freedom cell living 539 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,000 together on the property like creating a 540 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,160 village everybody has their own acreage 541 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:51,600 their own home you know it's not going 542 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:52,960 to be like a sort of 543 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:55,120 co-living or anything like that you know 544 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:56,240 because we're trying to balance in our 545 00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:57,200 community we have these strong 546 00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,640 individuals who want their own space 547 00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,320 their own privacy but also want the 548 00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,919 benefits of community and being together 549 00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:03,600 and that's an interesting mix sometimes 550 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:04,400 but 551 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:05,760 our foundational principles are 552 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:07,120 self-ownership the non-aggression 553 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:08,160 principle 554 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:10,160 using permaculture as the guide to how 555 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:11,440 we grow our food how we build our 556 00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:13,840 buildings natural building off-grid and 557 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,400 then the third foundational principle is 558 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,720 mindfulness which is broadly speaking 559 00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:20,400 you know people wanting to work with 560 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,679 other people 561 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:24,000 who are it's not like okay everybody has 562 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,360 to meditate every day everybody has to 563 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,880 pray once a week or anything necessarily 564 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:28,720 like that it's just more like wanting to 565 00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:31,120 work with people who are not static 566 00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:32,480 individuals who think they're done 567 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:34,160 growing and learning as people you know 568 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:36,320 people who want to keep experimenting 569 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:38,000 and trying to be the best versions of 570 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:39,919 ourselves and just having that 571 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:41,840 interest and cultivating that and then 572 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,120 there's some other kind of principles 573 00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,640 we've expanded on but that's kind of the 574 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:46,160 foundation of it self-ownership 575 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:49,120 non-aggression principle permaculture 576 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,720 and then those mindfulness kind of 577 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,640 conscious solutions and that 578 00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:54,400 is what i call the conscious agora and 579 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:56,480 yeah we're we're at the point now where 580 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,240 we've got our group and we've got our 581 00:19:02,549 --> 00:18:59,919 money pulled together we're actually 582 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,559 just now starting to kind of softly 583 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:05,120 quietly seek some investors to help us 584 00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,480 close the deal on this beautiful 585 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:08,320 property that we found that's got banana 586 00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:11,120 trees and avocado trees and guayaba and 587 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:13,280 apple and lime and 588 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:15,200 wild raspberry and just i mean it's 589 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:16,320 amazing 590 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,640 and yeah and the cool thing to see is 591 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,400 that we're one of 592 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,000 probably 593 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:24,240 eight to 12 or more that i know of at 594 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,160 the moment projects that are either 595 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,240 already started or are at the beginning 596 00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,160 stages that have popped up in mexico 597 00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,679 just in the last two years and and some 598 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,600 of these are like foreigners expats who 599 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:35,360 came from elsewhere and came here but 600 00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:36,880 also we've got to meet a lot of mexicans 601 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,799 who are increasingly paying attention to 602 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,880 these things and who have land and are 603 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,080 trying to build community or doing 604 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:44,480 permaculture doing off-grid living 605 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,679 there's something special happening in 606 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:47,679 mexico right now and you know what we're 607 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:50,320 trying to do i hope will eventually be a 608 00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,600 like the conscious agora i kind of 609 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,520 envisioned that as being like a network 610 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,960 in the long term you know a network of 611 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:57,120 communities that will be different in 612 00:20:03,350 --> 00:19:58,160 the 613 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:03,360 located but you could still know all 614 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,880 these communities are united by these 615 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:07,120 basic principles the self-ownership etc 616 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:08,480 you know and it's just kind of this 617 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,760 common bond 618 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:11,520 that can bring people together and and 619 00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,600 can create be a part of a larger network 620 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:15,039 of communities that is just popping up 621 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,880 right now and i really think that 622 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:18,080 you know this is something i wrote about 623 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,280 in my book how to opt out of the 624 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:21,120 technocratic state the what we call the 625 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,559 exit and build strategy and i really 626 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:24,080 think this is what's most important for 627 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,600 people right now that the cities are not 628 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,880 going to be safe you know i'm a city boy 629 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:28,400 i grew up in the city i love this city 630 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,440 even morelia is like 600 000 people 631 00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:32,960 that's really big for a lot of people 632 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:34,559 for me it's small because houston's 4 633 00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:36,799 million you know i get like the 634 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:38,799 attraction on one hand of the city and 635 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:41,280 all the benefits but i also know that 636 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:44,240 it's not safe long term and i think that 637 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:45,600 people need to be thinking more of those 638 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,880 terms whether you're going to come to 639 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:48,640 mexico or do it wherever you're at the 640 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,440 point is you know think about can you 641 00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:53,679 really continue to provide and sustain 642 00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,159 the lifestyle you might want by staying 643 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:58,240 in the city or maybe even the suburbs i 644 00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:59,280 don't know if they're going to be safe 645 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:00,880 positions long term 646 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:04,320 mm-hmm i totally agree and it sounds 647 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,559 like such a beautiful vision i know 648 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,640 there are many people out there who want 649 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,240 someone else to build it so that they 650 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,240 can just integrate into it i guess it's 651 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:14,240 the way our minds work maybe when people 652 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:16,960 see the template more people will feel 653 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:19,200 comfortable taking the plunge and just 654 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,799 using that template 655 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:22,960 i watch a lot of homestead youtube 656 00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:24,960 channels and just daydream about the 657 00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,159 lifestyle 658 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,640 but yeah if you just commit to it then 659 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,120 you can slowly make yourself more 660 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,520 comfortable by refining it over time so 661 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,440 many of these channels i watch you go to 662 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,200 the beginning and they're like i just 663 00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,200 bought the land and this shack and i'm 664 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:41,919 just gonna figure it out and then later 665 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,240 on down the road it's like oh i i made 666 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,880 this better and i tweaked this and now 667 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:48,400 we have hot water 668 00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,080 all these things like you really can 669 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,080 just tweak it as you go especially if 670 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,400 this is what you have to do 671 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:56,240 uh if you've gotten out of the rat race 672 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,440 and now you're just committed to an 673 00:22:02,070 --> 00:21:59,280 off-the-grid sustainable lifestyle you 674 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:02,080 have more time to tinker and tweak 675 00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:04,320 things and it's a process and there's so 676 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:06,960 many youtube channels and courses out 677 00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:09,440 there to get good ideas from it's easier 678 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:11,679 than it's ever been maybe not ever our 679 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,280 grandparents and great-grandparents it 680 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:15,600 was just the way of life but we suckled 681 00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,280 on that industrial teat and we lost this 682 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,720 stuff through our education system and 683 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,640 we're trying to get it back and there 684 00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,080 are things you can look at for 685 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,039 educational materials and a helping hand 686 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,120 and i heard you say that you were 687 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,520 planning on putting out a digital map of 688 00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,080 the places that expats can go or the 689 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,159 places where sustainable communities are 690 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:38,000 being developed how's that going could 691 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,520 you mention a few of these places in 692 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,159 mexico or even central america that 693 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,240 people should consider if they want to 694 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:46,480 exit and build and just don't even know 695 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,080 where to look maybe we can help them 696 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,000 jump start at least the research part of 697 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:52,240 the process 698 00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,640 yeah man there's so many that have been 699 00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,919 popping up as i was mentioning a moment 700 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,000 ago i'm actually so as far as the map 701 00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:00,320 goes i've actually probably will be done 702 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,520 with that 703 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,280 as soon as you know this week that we're 704 00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:05,360 recording this conversation and 705 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,799 if it's done by time you release this 706 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,400 i'll definitely send you the link the 707 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,120 idea with that is i'm using open source 708 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,720 mapping software 709 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,320 which is you know available to everybody 710 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,000 and we're just creating 711 00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:18,640 a digital kind of living map that people 712 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,080 can go to this it's just going to be 713 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,240 called mexico freedom communities and so 714 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,080 you can go there and you'll see you know 715 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,400 a little dot on the map you can click it 716 00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,480 and it'll give you some details about 717 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,000 basically we're just taking their 718 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:31,760 description of the community and then a 719 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,200 link to it and then showing you the 720 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:34,880 general location because you know one 721 00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,400 thing about this as well is a lot of 722 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,320 people are also pretty you know trying 723 00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:40,080 it's like trying to grow movements while 724 00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,919 also people being very concerned about 725 00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,520 privacy and not just giving away 726 00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,520 locations on the internet in the same 727 00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,840 sense that like we don't publicize where 728 00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,679 the land is we're trying to build this 729 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,279 on and maybe in the future that will 730 00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,520 change because we do plan to host as a 731 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:55,039 lot of these communities do plan to host 732 00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:56,720 like permaculture workshops like i want 733 00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,000 our land specifically to be an 734 00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,760 educational center that not just where 735 00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,279 we have our little residential village 736 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:03,279 but where we can host people we can 737 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,640 bring people there to learn natural 738 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,880 building to learn you know meditation 739 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,559 and spiritual techniques to come learn 740 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:10,320 from the wide network of people that 741 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,320 i've got to be affiliated with and so 742 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,159 i'm excited to where that's going to go 743 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:16,400 but the map will basically take 744 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,760 all the communities that we've got to 745 00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:18,559 meet 746 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,080 because i don't think i mentioned this 747 00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,720 but in 2021 i did a tour of the us the 748 00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:24,640 activation tour inspired by the greater 749 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:26,559 reset activation and then we did a 17 750 00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,200 city mexico tour just back in 751 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:31,279 march and april and so we got to meet so 752 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,880 many people across the country and as i 753 00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,320 said a lot of freedom cells popping up 754 00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,919 and organizing to different communities 755 00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:37,440 people buying land 756 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,039 and there's a lot of really exciting 757 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,880 projects some of them are still at the 758 00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,960 point where it's an idea you know people 759 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:44,080 have found 760 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:46,080 land that they would like to build on 761 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:47,840 and they're trying to find the right 762 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,400 people you know others have already got 763 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:52,880 the land they've already owned it 764 00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,240 they're in the process of building 765 00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,240 they're looking for people to 766 00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,919 sign on and move in as soon as possible 767 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,279 and start building like some communities 768 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,679 are really at that point and 769 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:03,039 i can say from 770 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,400 just off the top my head the ones that 771 00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,960 are coming to mind you know there's 772 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,880 at least two that we know in the yucatan 773 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,600 which like playa del carmen 774 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:14,159 tulum area not in there but out a little 775 00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,600 bit outside of those cities in the 776 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,520 yucatan and on the other side of yucatan 777 00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:19,840 in marita there's a 778 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,159 community out there that we know of so 779 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:24,799 that's kind of like more jungle tropical 780 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,840 definitely more warm out there and then 781 00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:29,039 there's some 782 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,799 not far from where we're at where i live 783 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,760 out here in the mountains there's a 784 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,360 couple other communities out here so 785 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,720 again totally different climate i mean 786 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,480 that's what i love about mexico is you 787 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,000 don't really have the four seasons like 788 00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:39,760 you might expect in the u.s and 789 00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:43,120 elsewhere you kind of have dry and rainy 790 00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,799 but there also are all these sub 791 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,559 climates and you know you got tropical 792 00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,640 and subtropical and in forest and then 793 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,400 beach and coast and mountain and there 794 00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,159 really is so much beauty to it and then 795 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,840 yeah there's some other communities that 796 00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:55,520 we know of that are on the other coast 797 00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,039 headed towards 798 00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,120 baja california and kind of on that 799 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,520 coast puerto vallarta area 800 00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,960 and then i'm sure once we put this out 801 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,480 there that we'll probably get more 802 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,240 communities and people who reach out to 803 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:08,080 us and say hey i heard you're doing this 804 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,600 and i mean i literally just learned 805 00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,960 about two new communities in the last 806 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,240 couple of days 807 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,960 so what i'm trying to do is at least get 808 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,240 to know the people in the communities a 809 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:18,320 little bit talk to them because you know 810 00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,760 things like this already exist you know 811 00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,679 for example you could go to ic.org 812 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,919 that's intentional communities website 813 00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,760 and you could search mexico or central 814 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,520 america and you'll find lists of 815 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:29,279 communities right but one of the things 816 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,799 that we saw in the last two years that 817 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,400 even in the intentional community 818 00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:34,559 conscious community space permaculture 819 00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:37,200 space etc those communities were totally 820 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,799 divided by covid you had some 821 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,080 communities that had been together for 822 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,080 20 years and all of a sudden some people 823 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:43,840 say we need to require mass and some 824 00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,760 people say no some people say we need to 825 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,600 require vaccines and some people say no 826 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,520 i mean it was a very divisive time and 827 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,320 continues to be for a lot of communities 828 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,760 so what we're trying to do with this 829 00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:56,400 specific map as well as we're adding a 830 00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,679 similar feature to the freedom sales 831 00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:59,279 website that i can tell you about in a 832 00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,559 little bit where people can list their 833 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:02,880 intentional communities there as well 834 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,440 this is going to be communities that are 835 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,240 more freedom minded is the best way i 836 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:10,159 can describe it i would expect that the 837 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,200 communities on the list that we're 838 00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:13,120 putting that we're going to list are 839 00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,880 definitely communities that don't 840 00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,039 require vaccines aren't looking to have 841 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,200 people vaccinated as a stipulation of 842 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,039 being involved or 843 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:22,799 wearing masks or those kinds of things 844 00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,880 right like so that's i think the benefit 845 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:26,399 of this map is it's not just going to be 846 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:27,520 like oh a list of intentional 847 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,679 communities it's going to be people that 848 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,840 are generally more you know for lack of 849 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,600 a better term awake 850 00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,960 does that mean you'll agree with them on 851 00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,559 every single topic no but that's 852 00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:38,240 anywhere you live anywhere you move to 853 00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,440 so the idea is that we're going to put 854 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:41,200 the information out there we're going to 855 00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,640 highlight some of the active freedom 856 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,159 cells that are here in mexico that are 857 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:46,240 really doing some good work you know so 858 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,919 they might not have land but they're an 859 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,440 active city that you could move to and 860 00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:50,880 get really plugged in with other 861 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:53,279 like-minded people and yeah that map 862 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:55,200 hopefully will be coming out soon this 863 00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,679 week at the latest and then as far as 864 00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:59,679 beyond mexico it's interesting you ask 865 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,399 about that because i actually literally 866 00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,760 in the last couple days have received an 867 00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,159 email from a woman who is really 868 00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:07,919 interested in freedom cells and she 869 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,720 lives in belize and that's another area 870 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,080 that a lot of people 871 00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:13,840 nicaragua belize that people have 872 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,480 considered and she's basically said hey 873 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:18,480 i have land out here 874 00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,840 i'm working with people doing 875 00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:21,520 permaculture you know just promoted all 876 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,360 these wonderful things and she said 877 00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,760 she's just trying to you know is anybody 878 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,760 doing freedom cells out here or can i 879 00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,279 you know work with some people or do you 880 00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:31,279 want to help share this so she's looking 881 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:32,960 to get the word out there i don't have 882 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,960 the info in front of me but maybe we can 883 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:36,080 include that in the show notes or 884 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,120 something because she's already got a 885 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,279 website set up and from what i read and 886 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,200 what she said she was saying 887 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,600 she can get people who are interested in 888 00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,799 belize 889 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,200 ready to purchase an acre and owning and 890 00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,360 owning some acreage for as little as 100 891 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:51,039 usd a month 892 00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,960 you know things like that so that's not 893 00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,799 financial advice or you know vouching 894 00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:56,640 for the community per se but my point is 895 00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,919 that there's a lot of people reaching 896 00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:59,760 out right now there's a lot of you know 897 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,480 if if you are looking to exit build 898 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:04,240 right now the information the 899 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:05,600 opportunities are there i mean you just 900 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,760 gotta kind of step up and look for it 901 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,960 i'm trying to make it as easy as 902 00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:11,200 possible like you said earlier i mean 903 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,799 the idea of doing the conscious agora 904 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,480 network i do want it to be a model that 905 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,480 people could easily replicate because 906 00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,559 i'm like a builder i like to create and 907 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:20,240 design and build things from the bottom 908 00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,600 up other people 909 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:23,039 you mentioned like you know some people 910 00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:24,399 just want to move into the community 911 00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,520 once all the work's been done and 912 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:27,120 there's nothing wrong or right about 913 00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,720 either approach that's just different 914 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,399 personalities some people just want to 915 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,480 okay here's my money where's my lot let 916 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:34,799 me build my house and all good whereas 917 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:37,200 we wanted to find the land and find the 918 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,720 right people and then co-create 919 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:40,159 something like we get to decide what is 920 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,679 our decision-making process how are we 921 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:43,440 going to handle conflict resolution how 922 00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,640 are we going to you know we get to be 923 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,720 the designers of that and that's 924 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:48,640 exciting to me but for other people they 925 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,080 might not have the patience the time or 926 00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,080 the energy to do that and they just want 927 00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:54,320 to come in and do their thing and so 928 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,240 we're trying to make these 929 00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,720 processes as easy as possible but also 930 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,240 it does take some personal 931 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,840 responsibility some effort and some 932 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,520 energy on the side of people who are 933 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,520 curious about this and if you are 934 00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,200 there's an immense opportunity right now 935 00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,960 to get ahead of the game as much as 936 00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:10,080 possible 937 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,440 and you know we're doing all of this of 938 00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,120 course with the awareness of all the 939 00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,440 crazy stuff going on in the world but 940 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,919 again my advice is to not let that put 941 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,679 you into a panic and make mistakes you 942 00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:21,440 know you gotta still like 943 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:22,960 try to stay level-headed and 944 00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:25,760 clear-minded you know 945 00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,919 man you are just such an inspiration and 946 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,840 you make me feel like i should be doing 947 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:32,159 so much more because i've cultivated 948 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,360 this six-figure audience over 10 years 949 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,640 and i guess a lot of people just want to 950 00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,159 listen to the show and get on with their 951 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,399 day they don't need me to organize 952 00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,399 anything for them but it just makes me 953 00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,880 feel like we're of a like mind and of 954 00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,880 course covet divided this audience too 955 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,200 how could it not but i think the 956 00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,960 beautiful thing about it is those who 957 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,480 stuck around 958 00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:54,000 those who 959 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,679 have communities that made it through 960 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,600 that they're armored up for the next 961 00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,159 time you know they've chosen body 962 00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:02,240 autonomy you know bodily autonomy and 963 00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,279 they're not given in and so now you know 964 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,279 now you know who those people are and 965 00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:09,360 it's not a hypothetical anymore i mean i 966 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,200 heard your great presentation at the 967 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,159 exit and build two conference and it was 968 00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:16,000 inspiring when you 969 00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:17,440 were talking about 970 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:21,279 how all these strange communities crypto 971 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,000 weirdos conspiracy folks homesteaders 972 00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,720 homeschoolers they've all been united by 973 00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:29,360 the concept of freedom and bodily 974 00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,320 autonomy and at a time when a lot of my 975 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,840 guests have been making it seem like 976 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,240 we're all [\h__\h] in the world is ending 977 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,799 there's just a lot of inspiration in 978 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:40,960 those people choosing that and the 979 00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,519 relationships they're forming in spite 980 00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:45,840 of all the dark plans of of the davos 981 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,240 crowd and uh it's just a beautiful thing 982 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,120 even that resource ic.org i didn't know 983 00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,799 about that now i'm definitely going to 984 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:55,039 spend a couple hours digging into that 985 00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,399 and sometimes just the right website or 986 00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,120 the right reference can open up a lot of 987 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,519 doors for people and so i guess i would 988 00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,519 ask you about that outside of full-on 989 00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,840 communities let's talk about some other 990 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,840 solutions that are out there can you 991 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:11,120 talk to us about some other things 992 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:12,480 you're seeing and supporting i mean 993 00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,000 there's a lot happening around food 994 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,200 decentralization and food sovereignty 995 00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,640 isn't there 996 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,320 yeah absolutely man that's a great place 997 00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,240 to go to with the conversation so 998 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,840 there's two things i'll mention of 999 00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:25,200 course freedom cells i'll talk about 1000 00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,320 that in a moment because we're actually 1001 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,399 getting ready to launch the next version 1002 00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:30,080 of our website it's going to be we just 1003 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,519 got some great features that are i think 1004 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,120 going to be really helpful for people 1005 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:35,039 but i actually just got plugged into 1006 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,480 this i don't know if you'd call it a 1007 00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:38,720 movement but it's an initiative that is 1008 00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:41,279 being spearheaded by henna maria this 1009 00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:43,039 woman that i met in the last year she 1010 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,399 lives in spain and she does a lot of 1011 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,480 really good work in different areas but 1012 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,720 she contacted me and has reached out to 1013 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,720 different groups and i'm sure she'd love 1014 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,399 you know your your involvement which is 1015 00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:53,600 you know basically just saying hey i 1016 00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,159 think this is an important topic and she 1017 00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:58,159 her like drive was like look we're as 1018 00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:59,600 you mentioned like people see all the 1019 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,960 crazy problems like 1020 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,720 we all are very aware of the danger to 1021 00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,799 the food supply and things happening and 1022 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,320 inflation food prices i mean we're 1023 00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,200 living it right it's in our faces so 1024 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:11,840 her kind of motive was like why don't we 1025 00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:14,480 bring together all these really powerful 1026 00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,679 people and people with different 1027 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,080 audiences and essentially just say you 1028 00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,679 know whatever your diet is it's not 1029 00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,600 about promoting one diet over the other 1030 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:23,120 anything but whatever your diet is we 1031 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,720 all need food and we all need healthy 1032 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:26,799 organic nutrient-rich nutrient-dense 1033 00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,720 food and clearly that's not what they're 1034 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,799 offering at the big box stores and the 1035 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,880 future of food that these psychopaths 1036 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,960 have planned for us is not that either 1037 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,000 and so 1038 00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,399 she launched this website just four days 1039 00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:40,240 ago actually just a few days ago on july 1040 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,440 22nd 1041 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,159 save our food.net and you know it's just 1042 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,799 kind of a campaign calling for people to 1043 00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:48,240 like hey if you're going out there and 1044 00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,480 shopping at the local farmers market 1045 00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,399 like take a picture use this hashtag 1046 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,760 save our food and send people to the 1047 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,760 website if you're doing podcasts or 1048 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:57,200 having conversations or just talking to 1049 00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,480 family and friends try to start 1050 00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,640 conversations about the importance of 1051 00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,720 food sovereignty and maybe even food 1052 00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:05,279 storage and localizing food supply just 1053 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,880 trying to have that conversation and 1054 00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,800 again recognize that like 1055 00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:11,119 clearly there's some scary things going 1056 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,480 on but 1057 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,800 once again we also have so many things 1058 00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:17,200 we can do for ourselves and it's just 1059 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,839 about being more proactive than i think 1060 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,440 reactive and sometimes even if we're not 1061 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:23,280 reactive like what i mean by that is you 1062 00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,320 know the 1063 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:25,839 whatever the predator class goes out and 1064 00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:28,000 does something and we oh let's go talk 1065 00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,359 about that on the internet let's go 1066 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:31,440 protest that or you know we're reacting 1067 00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:32,639 to what they're doing we're letting them 1068 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,839 drive us around but maybe that's not you 1069 00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:38,079 per se but sometimes people just slip 1070 00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,679 into apathy where they're just like yeah 1071 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:41,119 yeah of course they're doing that yeah 1072 00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,399 there's another bad thing you know and 1073 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:44,800 there's just sort of become numb to it 1074 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,679 and i think that being numb to it 1075 00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,760 and or being reactive to it aren't 1076 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,480 really great states because you know you 1077 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,679 don't want to just accept what's 1078 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:55,200 happening but you also don't want to 1079 00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,960 just be passive about it and just kind 1080 00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,640 of become yeah numb to the point that 1081 00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:00,240 you're just if you're familiar with the 1082 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,440 term your audience is probably familiar 1083 00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,880 with it black pills you know where you 1084 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,079 really think that everything's just 1085 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,920 screwed and i think there's a lot of 1086 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,920 that going on and there has been for 1087 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,440 since either before either of us have 1088 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,119 been around that's you know people have 1089 00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,040 been doomsday 1090 00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:14,960 doomsayers and stuff like that but i 1091 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,359 think it's become even more 1092 00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,920 prevalent in recent years just because 1093 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:21,599 you know a lot of people have woken up a 1094 00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,839 lot of crazy nefarious things have come 1095 00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,560 to light and yet still a lot of people 1096 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,839 feel 1097 00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:29,440 even hopeless like you know well we have 1098 00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,960 these big movements but maybe nobody's 1099 00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,720 paying attention so you know i think 1100 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,240 some people can get to that point and 1101 00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,760 thinking there's no solutions but there 1102 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,000 are solutions and save our food.net is 1103 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:40,000 at least part of it now is sharing that 1104 00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:41,359 hashtag going to save the world 1105 00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,119 obviously not there's still more that 1106 00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,599 needs to take place but if learning of 1107 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:47,680 the website and the hashtag inspires you 1108 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,800 to say you know what there is that 1109 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:50,160 farmers market this weekend i keep 1110 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,200 hearing about it i've never actually 1111 00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,880 gone why don't i go take a trip and then 1112 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:54,720 you go there you check out the local 1113 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,240 produce and maybe you get connected with 1114 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,560 somebody who's selling eggs or selling 1115 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,320 you know some product that really you 1116 00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,800 can use whether food or otherwise that 1117 00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:04,880 becomes a new relationship that you have 1118 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:07,119 that's part of defeating the great reset 1119 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,480 right like you have to localize your 1120 00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,160 food supply so that they can't try to 1121 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:12,720 say all you can have is bugs or bill 1122 00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:14,560 gates burgers or whatever right but if 1123 00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,160 you have no connection to the local food 1124 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,800 supply and you don't have any backyard 1125 00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,119 garden or community garden or urban farm 1126 00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:23,359 or any of that connection and you don't 1127 00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:26,079 have relationship with the farmers then 1128 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,280 i mean what are you doing you're just 1129 00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,960 waiting for them to come take away your 1130 00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,560 food and you're just accepting that you 1131 00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,240 will own nothing and be happy but for 1132 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,920 the rest of us who are just saying no 1133 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:35,280 we're not going to accept this we're 1134 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,560 going to create our own 1135 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:38,640 2030 our own vision of what 2030 could 1136 00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:41,040 look like we're going to take proactive 1137 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:43,040 steps and 1138 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:44,640 one of the things i think that this save 1139 00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,960 our food thing is valuable for and even 1140 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,359 just that idea of using hashtags and 1141 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,640 documenting like hey we're here at the 1142 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,920 garden save our food or i went to the 1143 00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,000 farmer's market save our food it seems 1144 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,160 so silly and just maybe even like oh 1145 00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:57,760 this is useless like i could do so much 1146 00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:00,000 more you can do more but still 1147 00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:01,680 what that does 1148 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:03,200 i think it helps people realize that 1149 00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,720 there are options out there right i feel 1150 00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,000 like so many people on the internet have 1151 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:07,839 forgotten the idea of sharing things i 1152 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,920 noticed this with podcasts and articles 1153 00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,680 and videos like people will consume it 1154 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,359 but then maybe not pass it along to 1155 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,200 others and i feel like in the past the 1156 00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,960 internet used to very much be about like 1157 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:18,320 sharing that's what social media was 1158 00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,839 about and 1159 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,839 to me the importance of sharing is to 1160 00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,520 say hey this is important to me this is 1161 00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:24,640 something that i like or that i'm 1162 00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,839 interested in or that i'm concerned 1163 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,079 about this is something that i you my 1164 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,920 friends whoever you are on social media 1165 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,760 or whatever that i think you might be 1166 00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:34,160 interested in right and in that same way 1167 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:35,599 if you think it's important to talk 1168 00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,240 about the food supply and food 1169 00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,920 sovereignty and growing your own food 1170 00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,480 and localizing food production 1171 00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:44,320 and you know getting away from 1172 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:45,920 the mass factory farming and all that 1173 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,720 stuff well using a hashtag or taking 1174 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:51,119 pictures and documenting that it helps 1175 00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,480 show your friends and family that it's 1176 00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:53,839 important to you and i know that's like 1177 00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,839 so obvious and it seems simple but i 1178 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,440 just feel like sometimes we forget about 1179 00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,359 that that yeah it doesn't feel like the 1180 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:01,599 biggest acts you could ever do but it 1181 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,520 will generate conversation it will at 1182 00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,520 the least generate other people wow oh 1183 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,520 wow i didn't know greg was into 1184 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:09,040 community gardening maybe i should go 1185 00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:10,160 check that out or i'm going to message 1186 00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,440 him and find out more about you know all 1187 00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,119 like you said earlier all those like a 1188 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:15,040 website can just completely alter your 1189 00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,720 path right and in the same way you 1190 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,960 sharing something about food sovereignty 1191 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,320 or saving your food or whatever it may 1192 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,320 be it can really 1193 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:23,920 spark something in someone else and then 1194 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,240 it just keeps growing 1195 00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:28,800 well said i guess maybe my role is just 1196 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,560 highlighting the people doing great 1197 00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:32,400 stuff like yourself but it makes me feel 1198 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,040 quite lazy but hey this is uh what i've 1199 00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,200 cultivated over time and i think you're 1200 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,119 right that is the bare minimum getting 1201 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:42,000 your food locally i hope my listeners by 1202 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,760 now can say that they're growing where 1203 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,160 they can and at least getting their 1204 00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:49,200 produce and protein from local sources 1205 00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,920 direct i had my local rancher on as a 1206 00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,599 guest and i think we've had three 1207 00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,440 different ranchers across the country 1208 00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,079 that do organic grass-fed sustainable 1209 00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:00,160 meat subscription boxes shipped right to 1210 00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,040 your home 1211 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,079 sunrise ranch on the west coast mastodon 1212 00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,560 farms in the midwest and polyface farms 1213 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,560 on the east coast so wherever you live 1214 00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,320 in the country one of these guys has 1215 00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,839 probably got you covered on their 1216 00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:13,440 coverage map 1217 00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:15,680 but i also would advise people this is 1218 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:16,720 just something i thought of the other 1219 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,440 day but write down the addresses of 1220 00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:21,760 these farms if we do have an internet 1221 00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,359 outage if they do a cyber pandemic do 1222 00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:27,359 you know where to go 1223 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,800 if you don't have these things shipped 1224 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,480 to your house i think that's kind of 1225 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,960 important uh you know i 1226 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,880 stored these addresses where i keep my 1227 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:36,640 birth certificate and that kind of stuff 1228 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,599 because 1229 00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,960 you only have a couple days before 1230 00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:39,920 you're going to need to know that 1231 00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,079 information if the grocery store can't 1232 00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,400 supply you and even if it can this is 1233 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:46,400 the better way this is the future way 1234 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,320 you want to keep these farms in business 1235 00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,400 it's important and yeah 1236 00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:52,640 hannah maria is exactly who i hoped you 1237 00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:53,800 would mention 1238 00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,800 saveourfood.net really great interview 1239 00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:58,480 you did with her i think it might have 1240 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:00,079 been been in that interview you 1241 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:04,079 mentioned or she mentions lemongraft.com 1242 00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:05,680 which is a website 1243 00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,400 trying to connect neighbors directly to 1244 00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:10,400 talk about what they're growing 1245 00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,359 and how you can purchase or trade right 1246 00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,040 in your neighborhoods i went to the 1247 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,359 website it needs some work i think the 1248 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,440 database only has florida in it i didn't 1249 00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:21,680 see anything in southern california but 1250 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,400 once that resource is out there people 1251 00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,000 can start using it 1252 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:28,800 i know a lot of my neighbors grow stuff 1253 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:30,640 i see it in their little patches and 1254 00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,599 their 1255 00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,119 raised beds i don't know what they're 1256 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,280 growing and i don't really know them but 1257 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,440 you know a website like this can help 1258 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:40,240 facilitate those connections i think she 1259 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:43,599 also mentioned ecotopia a company 1260 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:46,480 selling hydroponic grow towers that can 1261 00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,280 go in any apartment and get four times 1262 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:51,920 the yield as conventional gardens so 1263 00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,079 there's a company trying to help you 1264 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,319 help yourself you just gotta support 1265 00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,880 them while they're still around and 1266 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,040 yeah just so many 1267 00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,520 great resources and things happening 1268 00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,520 there is also a book i just learned 1269 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,880 about i'm going to try to get this guy 1270 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,200 on in the future but tristan scott wrote 1271 00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,440 a book called bitcoin and beef which i 1272 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,520 thought would be good to mention to you 1273 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,000 but it's criticisms similarities and why 1274 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:18,560 decentralization matters so 1275 00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,760 him and this guy texas slim you can find 1276 00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,319 him on twitter but 1277 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,720 they are going out there speaking to 1278 00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:29,200 ranchers and trying to convert them to 1279 00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,280 direct to consumer 1280 00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,680 and offering them tools like 1281 00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,520 crypto payments you know bitcoin 1282 00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:36,800 payments and 1283 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,119 that is what bitcoin is good for right 1284 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,040 there you know if we get to a point 1285 00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,240 where your finances are monitored uh and 1286 00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:46,079 you're working off a central bank 1287 00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:48,319 digital currency that can only be used 1288 00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,040 on the corporate food well these guys 1289 00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,200 need a system and bitcoin's a little 1290 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,839 early my god if my whole show is based 1291 00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:57,680 on just taking bitcoin payments i'd 1292 00:42:02,470 --> 00:41:59,680 probably be broke because it's so 1293 00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,480 early still yeah and same goes for these 1294 00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,960 ranchers but it is an option and if you 1295 00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,800 get cut out 1296 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,000 of the 1297 00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,680 traditional system because you said 1298 00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,920 something bad on twitter well you have 1299 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,680 to have a little bitcoin on hand to get 1300 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,599 your food supply from these ranchers who 1301 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:18,079 are willing to accept it so we are in 1302 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,160 the infancy of a lot of this stuff it's 1303 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,800 a beautiful thing i really love talking 1304 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:25,040 about these solutions giving people 1305 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:28,240 those websites that it's just like man 1306 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,440 this could change your whole world 1307 00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,040 because you listened to a two-hour show 1308 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,520 but you heard the right website address 1309 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:35,040 absolutely and i'm sure there's even 1310 00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,640 more i don't know if any more come to 1311 00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,480 mind for you i could name a couple 1312 00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:40,079 things that you just you you're 1313 00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,520 reminding me about you know i just want 1314 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,200 to re-emphasize what you were just 1315 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,280 saying they're just how important it is 1316 00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,800 to support these things because as you 1317 00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:48,319 said like you might visit you hear about 1318 00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,520 a great idea and you go visit you're 1319 00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:51,599 like oh wow like there's nobody here yet 1320 00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,440 or like you said it's only in one state 1321 00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,359 or maybe it's just it's not quite there 1322 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,200 yet right and that's something we come 1323 00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,280 across a lot or i've come across with 1324 00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,599 some of the the new quote-unquote 1325 00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,599 alternative social media that in the 1326 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,720 beginning you're like okay they don't 1327 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:06,160 have all the features of youtube or 1328 00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,000 whatever else but if you support them 1329 00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:09,599 and because you get it on principle 1330 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,960 you're kind of willing to deal with 1331 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,960 whatever bumps and bruises you got to 1332 00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,160 deal with along the way because you 1333 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,839 support the product i think it's the 1334 00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,599 same thing with a lot of these new 1335 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,880 initiatives that you know we're 1336 00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,480 essentially what we're talking about to 1337 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:22,319 me at least all these different pieces 1338 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,599 of the puzzle are about building a 1339 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,200 parallel society building parallel 1340 00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,599 networks to the current system because 1341 00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:28,960 if we can't 1342 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,599 completely stop the great reset and i 1343 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,800 don't know that we can there's trillions 1344 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,240 of dollars invested into it every 1345 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,400 multinational corporation and almost 1346 00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,480 every major government pushing towards 1347 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,319 that agenda to me you know that's the 1348 00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:42,319 idea of exiting from that system to 1349 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:43,839 build something better right and part of 1350 00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:45,440 that is getting our food supply into our 1351 00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,560 hands and all these interesting 1352 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,200 conversations well it also involves new 1353 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,440 websites new apps new technology you 1354 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:52,960 know and we are very much at the 1355 00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:54,160 beginning of a lot of it like you were 1356 00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,760 saying with bitcoin with crypto in 1357 00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,599 general and so i think that's important 1358 00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,119 to remember is that sometimes it takes 1359 00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:01,040 time for these tools we might not feel 1360 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:02,240 like we have all the time so i think 1361 00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,000 we're all working as hard and diligently 1362 00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:06,000 as possible i'm not the tech guy that 1363 00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:07,359 can build the things i just kind of go 1364 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,560 out there and promote them when i learn 1365 00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:10,480 about them but i am friends with some of 1366 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,240 the people who have the technology and 1367 00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:14,960 who are just working on amazing tools so 1368 00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:17,119 as far as solutions when it comes to 1369 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,599 food i will mention another one that is 1370 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:21,440 called falling fruit 1371 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,920 and i think it's 1372 00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,560 fallingfruit.org.com i haven't checked 1373 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,160 in a couple years it should still exist 1374 00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,560 because it's a pretty bare bones basic 1375 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:31,200 minimum website it also uses sort of 1376 00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:32,400 mapping 1377 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,720 technology where similar to different 1378 00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,720 maps people probably use like waze or 1379 00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:40,240 something like that where you can mark a 1380 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,839 police checkpoint or 1381 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,920 red light or traffic or car wreck or 1382 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,760 whatever you want to do on the map with 1383 00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:47,520 this let's say you're walking down the 1384 00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,640 street 1385 00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,079 and you notice on public property 1386 00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,000 there's you know a couple of orange 1387 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:54,079 trees just out there at the park or just 1388 00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,440 out there in some random field or 1389 00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,800 something like that you can go on to 1390 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,720 falling fruit and you can mark it so 1391 00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,720 that other people who are 1392 00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,119 foragers or just out there you know want 1393 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,440 food that is widely available can find 1394 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,880 that can have access to it so it's 1395 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:08,240 really cool i mean i've used this when i 1396 00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:09,440 was traveling different places i 1397 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:12,000 remember i was in san francisco and i 1398 00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,680 was doing a speaking tour across the us 1399 00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:15,200 and my idea was like let's try to use 1400 00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,200 this map while we travel to show people 1401 00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,119 that it can work and we were literally 1402 00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,040 in san francisco like in the city and 1403 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,000 using that website we found an avocado 1404 00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,240 tree growing like in the middle of the 1405 00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,520 city where you would never expect it 1406 00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,440 kind of hidden behind some restaurant 1407 00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,960 and we were able to go pick avocados it 1408 00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,359 was crazy but so i think that's a cool 1409 00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,280 resource that people can use and even if 1410 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:37,920 you're the kind of person that maybe has 1411 00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,680 an abundance of fruit trees on your 1412 00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,359 property or your house that you can't 1413 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:43,119 tend to you could put something on there 1414 00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,560 if it's free for the picking or if you 1415 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,240 want to charge people when i was living 1416 00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,000 in houston and i was living in the 1417 00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,000 freethinker house our community space we 1418 00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:52,079 would do that we would go ride bikes 1419 00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:53,200 around the neighborhood me and a couple 1420 00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,160 of guys that were living there we would 1421 00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,319 go ride around and check out the 1422 00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,760 different people in the neighborhood who 1423 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,680 had fruit trees or look for fruit trees 1424 00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:01,760 on public property and sometimes you 1425 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:03,119 know you just go to people you can see 1426 00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,720 their trees are like overflowing with 1427 00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:06,480 fruit they're clearly not doing anything 1428 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:07,520 with them they're just dropping to the 1429 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,200 ground and people will let you go pick 1430 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,800 their trees for free 1431 00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,720 maybe that's like too outgoing for some 1432 00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,560 people but think about that like we were 1433 00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,760 able to go 1434 00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:17,040 find 1435 00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,800 a bunch of mandarins and oranges from 1436 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,920 somebody's tree that weren't going to be 1437 00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,520 able to use them we took them home to 1438 00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,000 our house we juiced them bottled them up 1439 00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:25,680 in some glasses and then used at the 1440 00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,920 time we used the nextdoor website now i 1441 00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:29,440 would use something like freedom sales 1442 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:31,839 and we sold those juices to like local 1443 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,400 offices that were like in downtown 1444 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:36,640 so this is like fruit going to 1445 00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:38,560 potentially waste picked off a tree 1446 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,119 taken home juiced it cost us a bottle in 1447 00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,200 the time and then you know we make a few 1448 00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,040 bucks now is that going to pay your rent 1449 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,640 maybe not in the beginning but those are 1450 00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,800 the kind of i think innovative ideas 1451 00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,400 that are out there if you're willing and 1452 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,560 ready to kind of think on those terms so 1453 00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:55,200 falling fruit is a great resource 1454 00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,960 and then i'll mention 1455 00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,800 the freedom cells website again we're 1456 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,560 going to launch the website is up right 1457 00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:02,720 now freedomselfs.org it's been there for 1458 00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:05,599 two years now but it's closed to sign 1459 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,359 ups at the moment it'll be relaunched on 1460 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,280 august 1st so just 1461 00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:12,000 very soon here and i'm just so excited 1462 00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,520 to share this with people because the 1463 00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,040 original intention and the current 1464 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,640 version of the website is 1465 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:18,079 the maps you know people can create a 1466 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,760 free profile and here's my interest 1467 00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,760 here's my goals here's my skills and 1468 00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:23,359 then you put where you live and then you 1469 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,319 can search for people or sells slash 1470 00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,640 groups in your area you can join the 1471 00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:30,079 groups connect with them go to their 1472 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,520 physical meetings but the whole purpose 1473 00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:33,760 is using the website to meet people and 1474 00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,559 then you know actually connect in person 1475 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,559 so that you can for example grow your 1476 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,800 own food or come together and you know 1477 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,160 think about hey how's our community 1478 00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,319 gonna handle if things get tough or how 1479 00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,240 do we come together as a community and 1480 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:48,079 just see how you can support each other 1481 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,440 with everything we have going on or 1482 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:50,880 maybe even find other people who are 1483 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,440 looking to get land at that stage so 1484 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,280 that's already been what we've 1485 00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,520 been doing and that has functioned but 1486 00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:59,119 the website needed some improvements and 1487 00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,480 thanks to the greater reset audience 1488 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:02,160 back in january we were able to raise 1489 00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:03,680 fifteen thousand dollars and we've used 1490 00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,640 that to 1491 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,240 just totally streamline everything and 1492 00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,160 we've also added new features including 1493 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,319 a marketplace so now when the website 1494 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,480 relaunches people can 1495 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,800 submit goods obviously 1496 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,960 we can't without inviting any trouble 1497 00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,400 have anything illegal on there but 1498 00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,319 people can come on there and offer their 1499 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,319 services their goods if they're growing 1500 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:24,160 food they could list things like that 1501 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,599 whatever things that they can offer 1502 00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:27,200 within the community and it can be like 1503 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,720 online services that go out to the whole 1504 00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:31,119 network or you can localize it so that 1505 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,880 people in your area when they go to the 1506 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,800 map they can search to find people they 1507 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,160 can search to find groups or they can 1508 00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,760 also search to see what services are 1509 00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,359 listed in their area 1510 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,800 that's one new feature that we're adding 1511 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,119 in addition to that with the marketplace 1512 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,040 we're also letting you know one of those 1513 00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,839 listings that you can do is a dating ad 1514 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,119 you know this is a huge request we've 1515 00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,480 got from so many people you know for 1516 00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,079 those people who are not in 1517 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,800 relationships prior to kovid or maybe 1518 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,640 people who even relationship ended over 1519 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,800 kovid it's very important in the freedom 1520 00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:00,079 community i've come to find out where 1521 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,280 there's a lot of people who don't want 1522 00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,520 to date or potentially you know 1523 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:05,119 have children with somebody who may have 1524 00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,480 been vaccinated or may not have been 1525 00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,720 vaccinated depending on your view um and 1526 00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:10,640 we want to be able to have that as well 1527 00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,359 so you could list services like you have 1528 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,920 food for sale you're a graphic designer 1529 00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:18,160 or you could say hey i'm a man seeking a 1530 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,839 woman and these are my interests and 1531 00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:22,000 these are that and you know this is like 1532 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,280 it sounds kind of silly but this is 1533 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,640 actually one of the most requested 1534 00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,280 things we've had from our growing online 1535 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:29,599 community the website is 32 000 people 1536 00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,880 and then through the greater reset we're 1537 00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:32,240 reaching hundreds of thousands of people 1538 00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,359 around the world and there are a lot of 1539 00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:35,040 people not only looking for communities 1540 00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,559 but looking for people that they can 1541 00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,400 partner with and you know maybe start a 1542 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,040 family or spend you know somebody to 1543 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,200 enjoy the apocalypse with at least so 1544 00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,440 we've added that feature as well so 1545 00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:47,599 there's the marketplace the agora is 1546 00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,680 what we're calling it and we've also 1547 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,440 improved our search so now when you go 1548 00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,760 on there you can search specif let's say 1549 00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,920 you live in southern california you want 1550 00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,760 to search to find people 1551 00:50:02,870 --> 00:49:59,359 in that general area and you can choose 1552 00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,880 okay let me search 25 miles around 1553 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,640 san diego just an example let's just see 1554 00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,640 what's around there what people show up 1555 00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,040 what groups show up but you can also 1556 00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:10,960 now we have specific options where you 1557 00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,440 can search only show me people who say 1558 00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:15,520 they're ready to meet in person or only 1559 00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,920 show me people who are 1560 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,480 interested in buying land and then it'll 1561 00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:22,240 show you those people who have clicked 1562 00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:24,160 those options on their profile so we're 1563 00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:26,000 trying to just make it as intuitive and 1564 00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:28,319 easy as possible to eliminate any time 1565 00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,920 wasting because you know there's just a 1566 00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,359 lot of things we learned people go on 1567 00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,800 there and they they search and they're 1568 00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,079 trying to find people in their local 1569 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,920 area they meet people but then some 1570 00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,680 people maybe they're only ready to have 1571 00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:39,520 an online conversation or join an online 1572 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,800 group they're not quite ready for 1573 00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,720 whatever reason to meet in person and 1574 00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:44,000 even though that's the goal of freedom 1575 00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:45,599 sales we still want to make sure that 1576 00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:46,559 people 1577 00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:49,839 for wherever they're at whether that 1578 00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,520 means people who want to buy land people 1579 00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,359 who are selling food people who are just 1580 00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,040 trying to do activism in the community 1581 00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:57,440 in the city or people who are still very 1582 00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,119 early in this journey and so yeah the 1583 00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,359 freedom cells website freedomscells.org 1584 00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,720 is going to be another great resource 1585 00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,800 for people that i think will just take 1586 00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:06,720 things to the next level and allowing 1587 00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,559 new connections to happen because even 1588 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,319 with our previous version of the website 1589 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,160 which was definitely i'll admit not 1590 00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:14,800 running to its fullest capacity and had 1591 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,160 some kinks and things that needed to be 1592 00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,880 ironed out even with that so many people 1593 00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:20,640 that i met while traveling the us and 1594 00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,599 traveling mexico told us that when kobet 1595 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,200 started they felt alone they felt 1596 00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:27,119 desperate they felt depressed 1597 00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:28,319 you know they were isolated they were 1598 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:29,599 locked down the family members were 1599 00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,640 thinking they were crazy because they 1600 00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,880 were asking the wrong questions and then 1601 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,480 they said i went on the freedom sales 1602 00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,240 network website where i watched the 1603 00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,680 greater reset and i went to a local 1604 00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,680 watch party and i met all these people 1605 00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,680 in my community and now we're growing 1606 00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,440 food together now we're homeschooling 1607 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,960 our kids we pulled our money out of the 1608 00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:46,880 banks we're buying land like people are 1609 00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,280 doing real concrete things 1610 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,839 right now and again my invitation to the 1611 00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,200 audience that's going to hear this is 1612 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:55,119 just you know don't miss out you know 1613 00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:56,400 i'm not saying the freedom cell movement 1614 00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,839 is the only movement or the things we're 1615 00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:59,440 doing are the only solutions or anything 1616 00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:00,800 of that i'm just saying whatever you're 1617 00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,559 gravitating towards whatever you feel 1618 00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,800 like is a practical real world solution 1619 00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:06,559 for you and your family 1620 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,480 don't wait you know and if you got some 1621 00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,480 extra money you know there's things like 1622 00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,000 investing in crypto can be valuable 1623 00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,920 investing in precious metal those kinds 1624 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,440 of things but i think what's key at this 1625 00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,680 moment is invest in yourself if you've 1626 00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:18,960 got money that's just literally sitting 1627 00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,800 in the bank and slowly losing value 1628 00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:22,079 because of inflation and they could 1629 00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,359 potentially take it away from you 1630 00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:24,880 because you support the wrong causes or 1631 00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,800 because you listen to the wrong podcast 1632 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,640 take it out of there go look up some 1633 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,720 courses that you need to learn you know 1634 00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:32,240 if you're like okay one day i do want to 1635 00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,280 buy land but i really don't know 1636 00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,200 anything about growing food well go get 1637 00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,359 involved in the local community 1638 00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,599 gardeners you know find some local 1639 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,280 agriculture or farmer that you can work 1640 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:42,880 with or partner or volunteer with or 1641 00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,280 take an online course i mean that's much 1642 00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,880 more valuable way to use the money that 1643 00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,400 you have available to you is to invest 1644 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,319 in yourself to give yourself the skills 1645 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:52,400 and the tools and the 1646 00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,440 the information that you're going to 1647 00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:55,040 need to thrive 1648 00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:57,040 into the coming years and you know and 1649 00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,400 that's i think is what's most important 1650 00:53:01,430 --> 00:53:00,240 right now is we need to be taking all 1651 00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:01,440 these different tools and different 1652 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,559 ideas and seeing what works for us and 1653 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,880 seeing how we can empower ourselves 1654 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:08,160 yeah man 1655 00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:08,960 oh 1656 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:11,359 really great additions coming with the 1657 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:13,760 freedom cells upgrade i got similar 1658 00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,000 feedback people were feeling isolated 1659 00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,079 feeling like the odd man out among 1660 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:21,119 family and friends and i made the higher 1661 00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,880 side meetups calendar it's just a 1662 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,280 totally free thing where you could go on 1663 00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:28,079 and say hey i want to find other higher 1664 00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,839 side chats listeners around me let's all 1665 00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:32,160 go to this brewery or something very 1666 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:34,720 cool and then you know i just end every 1667 00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,599 show reading the meetups and it's just 1668 00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,119 probably not the best system freedom 1669 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,880 sells is much better but it's what i can 1670 00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:42,480 do with my people 1671 00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,319 and just trying to get them out there 1672 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:46,559 and even trying to coordinate groups 1673 00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,440 with uh other shows like we're all 1674 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,960 talking about similar things we're all 1675 00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,960 on the same page it doesn't matter which 1676 00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,800 show you like best if you're looking for 1677 00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,720 people locally who agree with you on 1678 00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,160 these things because 1679 00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:00,640 it has been a really isolating few years 1680 00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,720 for some people and it's funny you 1681 00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,040 mentioned the dating thing i do have a 1682 00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,359 singles forum thread it doesn't get used 1683 00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,960 a whole lot and a forum thread isn't 1684 00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:11,359 even the best way to do such a thing but 1685 00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,119 it's in the 1686 00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,119 mindset of trying to get people 1687 00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,040 connected i've thought about adding 1688 00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:19,920 fields to profiles that so that people 1689 00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,319 who are subscribers can just list their 1690 00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,480 independent businesses so 1691 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,000 any member could just scroll the 1692 00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,079 database of businesses and like hey i'm 1693 00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,240 in the market for this or that let me 1694 00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:31,920 see if there's a higher side chats 1695 00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,559 listener who does this who makes a good 1696 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:37,040 product that could you know support that 1697 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,400 instead of me going to the mall or 1698 00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:40,400 something and yeah it's a beautiful 1699 00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,680 thing yeah those are all just going to 1700 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,280 say that those are all great starts 1701 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,359 ma'am and you definitely like you've got 1702 00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:47,760 such a big audience that even giving 1703 00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,119 them those 1704 00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,599 options i think is magnificent because 1705 00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:53,280 people are looking to connect right now 1706 00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:55,359 i mean i think that so much of what is 1707 00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:58,079 happening in our world is because people 1708 00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,520 in a lot of different ways people feel 1709 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:01,920 disconnected people feel alone and so 1710 00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,280 yeah i've realized that more and more 1711 00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,119 man and people of all ages you know we 1712 00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:06,799 got people there are older folks that 1713 00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:09,040 i've come across in the movement who are 1714 00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,559 getting to the point where they want 1715 00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,880 someone to spend the last 20 whatever 1716 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,720 years their life 30 years their life and 1717 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,960 they're not feeling too optimistic about 1718 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,880 it because of oh now i can't you know 1719 00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:20,160 the vaccines are dividing people are 1720 00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:21,680 this and that there's also a lot of 1721 00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,119 young people who 1722 00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,599 lost relationships and stuff and the 1723 00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,599 lockdowns didn't help anybody 1724 00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,119 it's a tough time for a lot of people as 1725 00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,119 we were saying from the beginning and 1726 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:33,040 any way we can bring people together 1727 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:34,640 whether through your website or freedom 1728 00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,640 cells like i said the more the merrier 1729 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,160 we need as many options for people to 1730 00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:40,079 connect and do it on a local level 1731 00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:41,280 because i think that's where we really 1732 00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:42,960 have strength you know we can connect 1733 00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:46,400 digitally and share ideas but ultimately 1734 00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,079 what i do in mexico in my community 1735 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:50,000 doesn't necessarily benefit you in 1736 00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:51,599 southern california or someone listening 1737 00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:54,000 in chicago or wherever else right so we 1738 00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:54,799 need 1739 00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:56,000 that same 1740 00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:57,359 we need people to be wherever you're 1741 00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,799 going to be holding down the fort as i 1742 00:56:01,349 --> 00:56:00,160 call it if you're committed to like for 1743 00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:01,359 example with you if you're committed to 1744 00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,480 southern california if someone's 1745 00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,400 committed to texas 1746 00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:06,000 whatever your move is if you're moving 1747 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:07,119 somewhere else or if you're staying 1748 00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,640 where you're at 1749 00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,799 if you're committed to that place 1750 00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,240 you need to build there that's just what 1751 00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,839 i feel like is so important and finding 1752 00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:16,000 people locally who you know because a 1753 00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,680 lot of it also is just 1754 00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,160 social you know so much of 1755 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:22,000 what i saw too is that even if people 1756 00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:23,760 weren't doing these big changes in their 1757 00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,480 lives that freedom cells at the least 1758 00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,720 gave them a place where a couple hours a 1759 00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,799 week or however often they met they felt 1760 00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,480 like they weren't crazy and that's a 1761 00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,559 huge thing right now that's just so 1762 00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,160 important i mean again it's so simple 1763 00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,000 but helping other people realize like 1764 00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,079 holy crap i'm not alone i mean i've seen 1765 00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:42,079 it happen so many times and i saw it on 1766 00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,440 tour where people who might not be 1767 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,880 plugged in locally they don't know the 1768 00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,319 local freedom cells or the different 1769 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,799 groups they just heard about an event or 1770 00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:50,400 you know somebody told them to come or 1771 00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,839 they just know about my work but they're 1772 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,839 not locally plugged in and in the moment 1773 00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,520 that happens it's like this whole world 1774 00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:57,599 opens up to him and now they have a new 1775 00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,599 group of friends that often become like 1776 00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:01,440 family and maybe even closer than their 1777 00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,720 real family especially if they were 1778 00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:04,720 being judged or attacked by their family 1779 00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,160 and then they get plugged into events 1780 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:07,920 and they get plugged into like action 1781 00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:10,400 solutions and that can truly 1782 00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,920 change your life from just feeling 1783 00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:13,920 pretty down and pretty 1784 00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,319 just really negative and pessimistic 1785 00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,720 about the future to feeling like okay i 1786 00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,400 actually have some solutions i actually 1787 00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:22,799 do have tools that i can do 1788 00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:24,839 all is not lost you know and that's so 1789 00:57:29,710 --> 00:57:27,839 valuable it is it is and 1790 00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:29,720 man i can't believe we've had enough 1791 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:31,440 solution-oriented things to fill the 1792 00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:32,880 whole first hour here i thought we were 1793 00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:35,440 going to have to go dark but another 1794 00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,720 little thing i wanted to throw in is 1795 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,640 digital technology it's obviously 1796 00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,400 important too and i've considered 1797 00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,720 getting rid of my phone over the emf 1798 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,640 concerns especially with a young baby 1799 00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:46,799 around but then i'd be chained to my 1800 00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:49,119 computer twice as much as i am now 1801 00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,119 because of what i do for work but at 1802 00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:53,280 least in terms of playing ball with the 1803 00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:55,200 surveillance machine and all the data 1804 00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,079 collection we do have other options like 1805 00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,400 jail breaking our phones and installing 1806 00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,319 the graphene os 1807 00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:04,160 or this other thing that i've seen you 1808 00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:07,280 post about called the above phone do you 1809 00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,440 know enough about that to speak to it a 1810 00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,880 little bit 1811 00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:13,040 yeah absolutely i do and i'm glad you 1812 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,400 brought that up i was gonna mention that 1813 00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,799 i almost forgot but yeah definitely so 1814 00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,799 first thing i'll say is that 1815 00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,559 basically the guy who built the website 1816 00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:22,559 for the greater reset and the freedom 1817 00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:23,920 cell network website that i was just 1818 00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,000 describing his name is ramiro romani 1819 00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:27,520 he's originally from houston as well i 1820 00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:29,280 know him just from back in houston and 1821 00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,640 we've been working together now for 1822 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,079 about two years 1823 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:33,520 again he's one of the tech people i 1824 00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,960 mentioned who do know how to do all the 1825 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,400 tech things that i don't know how to do 1826 00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,720 but i can help share and so he's been 1827 00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,119 involved in not only helping us improve 1828 00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:43,520 our tech side of things but he has his 1829 00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,520 own project website called take back our 1830 00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:48,000 tech take back our tech.org 1831 00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:51,119 and again this is an amazing resource 1832 00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,480 for people who are really trying to 1833 00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,839 figure out like like you said like we 1834 00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:55,839 need to use digital tools i'm sitting 1835 00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,000 here in front of two computers and you 1836 00:59:01,589 --> 00:59:00,319 know and technology all around me but i 1837 00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,599 want to learn how to use those tools as 1838 00:59:05,109 --> 00:59:03,280 best as possible and so 1839 00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:05,119 take back our tech offers 1840 00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:07,119 a lot of really helpful both 1841 00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:09,119 blogging guides and video guides where 1842 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:10,400 ramiro will take you through different 1843 00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:12,559 things like for example how to change 1844 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,000 your computer to get off of microsoft or 1845 00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,559 apple or google and get on linux and you 1846 00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:20,480 know finding a linux operating system 1847 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,680 that works for you 1848 00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,280 that's what i'm using i'm using linux 1849 00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,960 right now he's helped me convert all of 1850 00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,640 my stuff over the last year it's 1851 00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,480 something i've known about for years but 1852 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,559 i just didn't take the initiative and 1853 00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,400 didn't have the opportunity and so 1854 00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:34,319 there's things like that as well as on 1855 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,240 take back our tech he promotes 1856 00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:38,160 some lesser-known 1857 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,119 encrypted messaging platforms like xmpp 1858 00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:42,960 and just a lot of good really 1859 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,760 database for all kinds of decentralized 1860 00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,760 and kind of open source tech knowledge 1861 00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:49,839 and a big part of that is as you 1862 00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:51,280 mentioned the phones i mean the phones 1863 00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:53,200 are clearly one of the most 1864 00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:54,240 just 1865 00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:56,319 the least privacy based thing that many 1866 01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:58,000 activists do that many of us who know 1867 01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,160 about it right like i don't use a phone 1868 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,480 but i'm also you know here at home on 1869 01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,000 the computer all the time like you said 1870 01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:05,520 and i don't have a child so i don't have 1871 01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:06,799 to worry about as much as you do in the 1872 01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,799 same sense but i know the pain of what 1873 01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,240 you're saying because 1874 01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,240 i often end up just carrying my computer 1875 01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:14,400 around with me everywhere i go and so 1876 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,680 i'm like okay what's the difference 1877 01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:18,160 right but if you're gonna use a phone 1878 01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:19,680 and you know some people go the dumb 1879 01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:21,119 phone option and go buy an old one 1880 01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:22,400 that's an option you know i've done that 1881 01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,000 in the past too but if you want a 1882 01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:25,839 smartphone or you need it for work or 1883 01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,680 there's just some benefit well as you 1884 01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:29,599 said there are options of de-googling 1885 01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,839 your phone jailbreaking them and putting 1886 01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:33,839 in better operating systems including 1887 01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:36,000 graphene as you mentioned and so that 1888 01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:37,200 information's out there if you've got 1889 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:39,119 the drive and the time and the energy 1890 01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,799 you can go look it up on youtube and 1891 01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:43,200 watch some videos and read some blogs 1892 01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:44,799 but if you don't have that knowledge or 1893 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:47,119 the patience or just want 1894 01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:47,920 something that's a little more 1895 01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:50,640 streamlined what ramiro offers is the 1896 01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,400 above phone and the website's just above 1897 01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,000 phone.com 1898 01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:56,000 i can probably send you a direct link 1899 01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,839 and i think if you order it through me 1900 01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:59,359 there might be like a slight discount or 1901 01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:00,720 something for the audience so if anybody 1902 01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:03,440 wants that but the phone is just 1903 01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:05,200 he has a few versions now but they have 1904 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:07,760 google phones you know google pixels 1905 01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:09,119 that have been stripped of all the 1906 01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:10,559 google stuff 1907 01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:12,160 you know so d googled and all the 1908 01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:14,160 spyware removed and then 1909 01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:15,680 there's a couple of options you can just 1910 01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:16,960 buy the phone like hey here's your 1911 01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:19,680 google pixel and what they include with 1912 01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:21,040 it is 1913 01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,960 a host of different tools so all the 1914 01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:24,319 stuff you're used to like email 1915 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,040 messaging video platforms 1916 01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:29,200 calendar calculator all that stuff but 1917 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:31,839 it's non-microsoft non-google versions 1918 01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,839 of these so instead of google maps on 1919 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,680 there you have organic maps 1920 01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:36,960 there's like three different mapping 1921 01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,680 options and so a lot of it is just it's 1922 01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:41,280 just like a new learning curve a lot of 1923 01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:43,280 them the tools look exactly the same the 1924 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:44,640 ones you're used to but they're not 1925 01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:47,280 sending back data to the companies every 1926 01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:48,799 two seconds like all the other tools 1927 01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:51,040 that we're used to right so some of them 1928 01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:52,559 like the maps don't look exactly like 1929 01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:54,160 what you're used to when you're used to 1930 01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:55,920 looking at google maps but this is also 1931 01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:56,799 for me 1932 01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,720 i realized just over the past year how 1933 01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:01,200 big of a weakness this is to many of us 1934 01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,920 99 of the world probably because even 1935 01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:05,359 something as simple as trying a new 1936 01:02:09,670 --> 01:02:07,839 digital map is hard to adjust to because 1937 01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,680 we're so used to what google maps looks 1938 01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:10,799 like 1939 01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:12,079 and yeah there is a slight learning 1940 01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:14,000 curve but the maps work great and what i 1941 01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,839 love about it like with organic maps 1942 01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:17,280 when miriam and i were traveling around 1943 01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:19,359 the us and mexico for our tour what you 1944 01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:21,200 can do is you can use it just like you 1945 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,480 normally would like you're connected to 1946 01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:24,000 the internet and you know use it like a 1947 01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:25,039 map 1948 01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:26,400 sometimes it might not find the 1949 01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:27,599 locations you're looking for and you 1950 01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:28,880 have to kind of manually put it in the 1951 01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:30,480 location but it still works great and 1952 01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:32,079 then you can you're like building the 1953 01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:33,839 map so maybe you add the location to 1954 01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:35,119 your church or your workplace or 1955 01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,799 whatever and now it has saved there and 1956 01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:39,119 you can get there easier but the other 1957 01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,640 thing is you can download all the maps 1958 01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:42,240 so let's say the power goes out or you 1959 01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,760 lose internet service 1960 01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,599 those maps are downloaded to your phone 1961 01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,680 now so you can still use them just like 1962 01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:49,280 you would anything else as long as you 1963 01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:50,960 know where you need to go and of course 1964 01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:53,039 it's gonna be using your gps while 1965 01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:55,119 you're using the maps that's the kind of 1966 01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:57,119 the give and take with those tools 1967 01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:58,480 but that's really cool because it's as 1968 01:03:02,309 --> 01:03:00,480 close to a digital paper map as you can 1969 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:02,319 get right it's like downloaded to your 1970 01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:03,599 phone 1971 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:05,200 so as we were traveling the us we would 1972 01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:06,880 download okay that we need the texas map 1973 01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:08,480 okay we need the california map okay we 1974 01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:10,160 need this and then eventually you know 1975 01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:11,599 we had the whole us 1976 01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:13,039 that's like how we chose to do it so 1977 01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:15,520 that we could just practice with it yeah 1978 01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:17,119 and so many other tools you can just buy 1979 01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:18,559 the phone from above phone just like 1980 01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,000 that hey i'm gonna buy it i'm gonna get 1981 01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:22,079 my own service my own sim card but they 1982 01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:23,520 also 1983 01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,119 have other kind of packages where you 1984 01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:27,359 can buy what they call the above suite 1985 01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:29,200 which is like their own servers which 1986 01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:32,400 are hosted i believe in iceland and you 1987 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,640 can get email through them and xmpp 1988 01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,720 encrypted messaging and your own jitsi 1989 01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,400 hosting service jitsi is like an 1990 01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:40,240 alternative to zoom 1991 01:03:43,829 --> 01:03:41,839 so they have different levels that you 1992 01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:43,839 can go about and they're very much 1993 01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:45,599 available to help walk people through 1994 01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:47,440 these things and and it's really cool 1995 01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:49,119 because it's been growing pretty rapidly 1996 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:50,400 through our network a lot of people 1997 01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:52,880 getting the above phone or at least just 1998 01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:54,000 if you don't want to get the above phone 1999 01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,839 just seek some alternative right that's 2000 01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:57,520 the whole point but it's been cool to 2001 01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:59,280 see it growing to the point that now we 2002 01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:01,039 have distribution out here in mexico as 2003 01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:02,559 well so like i'm 2004 01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:04,720 one of the official unofficial 2005 01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:05,920 distributors of the phone out here in 2006 01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:08,000 morelia where i live so yeah it's 2007 01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:09,359 growing and 2008 01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,640 it's a tool you know if you're going to 2009 01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:12,720 be using a smartphone 2010 01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:15,039 why spend 2011 01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:16,960 however much people pay for phones on 2012 01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,480 the latest whatever that's just going to 2013 01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:20,559 spy on you when you could at least spend 2014 01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:22,480 some money and invest in a phone that is 2015 01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:25,280 going to start you off on a better foot 2016 01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,799 now of course if you download you buy 2017 01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:28,559 the phone and you go download facebook 2018 01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:30,880 and instagram and all that stuff and 2019 01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:32,799 give them access to your phone you do 2020 01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,520 kind of defeat the purpose of it um 2021 01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:37,200 so there's different levels of privacy 2022 01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:39,119 you can have with it you could be like a 2023 01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,559 super secure 2024 01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:42,559 privacy anonymous person using this 2025 01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,400 phone you could also still just do the 2026 01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:46,160 things you're used to but instead of 2027 01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:47,839 sending youtube all your data you're 2028 01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:49,520 going to use the new pipe app which 2029 01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:51,200 allows you to watch videos on youtube 2030 01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:52,480 but it's not sending them any of your 2031 01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:53,839 information so i mean it's an 2032 01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:55,119 alternative for a lot of things you're 2033 01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:56,720 already used to so yeah i would 2034 01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:58,640 definitely recommend takebacktech.org 2035 01:05:02,549 --> 01:05:01,599 and above phone.com 2036 01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,559 another 2037 01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:04,799 great possibility for people to engage 2038 01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:06,480 in and it's another area we shouldn't 2039 01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:09,280 neglect it's not just about food and 2040 01:05:14,470 --> 01:05:11,760 communities but tech and as you said a 2041 01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,480 lot of activists talk a strong game with 2042 01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:16,400 an iphone or a google pixel in their 2043 01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,559 pocket it's one of the places we tend to 2044 01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:20,880 compromise but again there are no 2045 01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,280 perfect people we're all just trying to 2046 01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:26,000 reclaim aspects of our freedom our 2047 01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:28,480 security and our privacy we're doing the 2048 01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:30,559 best we can exactly 2049 01:05:34,270 --> 01:05:31,440 and 2050 01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:34,280 before we go obviously 2051 01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:35,680 theconsciousresistance.com is your 2052 01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,960 central hub 2053 01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:38,880 but anything else you're working on that 2054 01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,400 we should throw out there you know these 2055 01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,640 conferences and live events i always 2056 01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:44,160 find them after they've happened you 2057 01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:46,240 have any events on the books for the 2058 01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,839 rest of the year 2059 01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:50,640 well not for this year but early 2023 so 2060 01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:52,880 i'll mention it now the greater reset 2061 01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:54,720 four we're coming back the website is 2062 01:05:58,710 --> 01:05:56,960 the greaterreset.org 2063 01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:58,720 we're calling the fourth one co-creation 2064 01:06:01,990 --> 01:06:00,640 and for those who aren't familiar i mean 2065 01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:02,000 it's pretty much taken the first half of 2066 01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:03,359 the show and all the solutions we were 2067 01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:05,280 talking about and throwing them into an 2068 01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,000 event five days we meet the same week 2069 01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:09,839 that the world economic forum meets in 2070 01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:12,160 davos so the same way they get together 2071 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:14,559 with their thinkers and 2072 01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:17,200 people to talk about technology and the 2073 01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:18,960 health industry and all that stuff we 2074 01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,799 get together some of the brightest minds 2075 01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:23,680 in the freedom truth conspiracy 2076 01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,559 decentralized tech crypto etc 2077 01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:28,240 movements homestead homeschooling 2078 01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:30,160 movements and for five days we talk 2079 01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:32,160 about mental physical spiritual health 2080 01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:33,839 we talk about permaculture and growing 2081 01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,160 food we talk about building community 2082 01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,079 decentralized technology counter 2083 01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:40,640 economics five days of solutions it's a 2084 01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:43,359 live event in texas and in mexico very 2085 01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:45,520 affordable and it's also free to watch 2086 01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:47,440 online if you can't come in person 2087 01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:49,520 but i encourage you to just sign up for 2088 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:51,440 our email list thegraderreset.org we'll 2089 01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:54,480 be sending out updates as we get closer 2090 01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:56,079 i can confirm that we are already going 2091 01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:58,960 to have katherine austin fifth speaking 2092 01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,920 christian westbrook of ice age farmer 2093 01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:03,440 and a lot of really other 2094 01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:05,200 amazing people that people won't know 2095 01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:06,799 their names but they would want to know 2096 01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:08,480 about the tools and tips that they have 2097 01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:10,000 because that's one thing as well it's 2098 01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,680 like balancing between the big names 2099 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:13,359 that are going to draw people in and the 2100 01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,680 people who don't have any following but 2101 01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:17,440 these people can teach you how to grow 2102 01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:18,559 you know 2103 01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,680 a hundred pounds of food in your 2104 01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:21,039 backyard or something like that you know 2105 01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:22,480 the people who are doing the good work 2106 01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:24,160 but just don't have a a brand or 2107 01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:26,160 something so i encourage everybody to 2108 01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,880 check it out the greaterreset.org 2109 01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:30,480 that's a great approach it's kind of how 2110 01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:33,440 i try to choose guests as well but man 2111 01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,640 this is 2112 01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,400 always a pleasure you are one of the 2113 01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:38,400 good ones you're doing great work and 2114 01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:40,559 i'm lucky to know you and have you pop 2115 01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:44,000 in every so often to keep us updated but 2116 01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:45,920 keep doing what you do keep fighting the 2117 01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:47,839 good fight and take care out there man 2118 01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:49,200 thank you so much brother i appreciate 2119 01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:56,309 serenity now people the great great 2120 01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:57,920 derrick bros 2121 01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,319 man his work ethic and commitment to 2122 01:08:05,589 --> 01:08:03,119 solution oriented projects is very 2123 01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,599 impressive you got to respect it 2124 01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:08,319 i'm enjoying having him on more and more 2125 01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,319 and probably need to get familiar with 2126 01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:12,799 other people that he works with 2127 01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,640 and i'm a big fan of how this went 2128 01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,319 actually i expected a lot of the 2129 01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,799 solutions talk to just take up 30 2130 01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:20,560 minutes or so but we filled the whole 2131 01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:22,000 first hour 2132 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,040 with a wide range of resources and ideas 2133 01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:27,440 and so it comes off as a way more 2134 01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,159 positive episode than some others 2135 01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:32,080 that are really talking about the same 2136 01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:34,159 sort of stuff that's coming just with a 2137 01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:35,520 different tone 2138 01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,480 the conscious agora sounds awesome take 2139 01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:41,040 back our tech.com and the above phone 2140 01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,719 was a nice addition 2141 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:44,880 to what is understandably usually a 2142 01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:47,440 conversation focused on location and 2143 01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:50,159 decentralized organic food 2144 01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:52,799 also i should mention his sustainable 2145 01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:55,759 communities in mexico map is now out and 2146 01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,040 available 2147 01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:59,120 there is a link in the show notes to his 2148 01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,960 page about it 2149 01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:02,560 very ambitious plan to have a 2150 01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:05,040 cross-border network between mexico and 2151 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:06,400 texas 2152 01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:11,839 involved in this network somehow 2153 01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:13,839 it's funny because some people are so 2154 01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:15,920 obsessed with the border and getting it 2155 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:17,359 sealed up 2156 01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:19,199 but it's been suggested before that 2157 01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:20,880 they're going to seal the border right 2158 01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,359 before americans really want to start 2159 01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:25,440 leaving in mass so be careful what you 2160 01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:26,880 wish for 2161 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,319 because we're kind of talking about the 2162 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,120 early stages of that right now 2163 01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:33,040 if the mexican government said eh we 2164 01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,480 don't really want you why don't you get 2165 01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:37,040 your own house in order 2166 01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:39,440 that would be one hell of a taste of our 2167 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,679 own medicine wouldn't it 2168 01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,440 anyway i don't want to comment too much 2169 01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:45,679 on that because the border is a real 2170 01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:48,960 trigger issue for some people oftentimes 2171 01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,000 people who live nowhere near the border 2172 01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,080 even though i actually do and i know 2173 01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,080 several people with jobs here who live 2174 01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,159 over there i know several people who 2175 01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:00,719 live here and go over there for surfing 2176 01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:04,159 and food but when your main lens to view 2177 01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,159 a problem is through the media because 2178 01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,000 it's not a local problem for you 2179 01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,159 everything looks like the sky is falling 2180 01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:12,080 all the time right 2181 01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:13,760 media would also have you thinking that 2182 01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:15,920 there's not a single roof that isn't on 2183 01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:18,560 fire in california too 2184 01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:20,239 of course i do have empathy for those 2185 01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,840 who lose their homes you'd have to be 2186 01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,600 dumb not to 2187 01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,000 but california is a very big place if 2188 01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:27,920 you haven't noticed 2189 01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:30,400 either way really happy with this 2190 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,120 i knew it was gonna start by mentioning 2191 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:35,360 allison's rant and i didn't want to 2192 01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,840 spend too much time throwing shade at 2193 01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,840 her because that's not what we're about 2194 01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,679 but it is what brought me and derek 2195 01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,440 together again 2196 01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:45,440 and it is sort of important to talk 2197 01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:49,280 about tone and candor and the nuance of 2198 01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:52,080 being a person in this space 2199 01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,520 and you know what i'm going to say i'm 2200 01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:55,280 going to go back to the dave chappelle 2201 01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,239 bit about imperfect allies kind of his 2202 01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:00,719 rebuttal to wokeness where nobody is 2203 01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,560 ever pure enough 2204 01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:04,880 he makes points about me too and even 2205 01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,080 apartheid and says nobody's perfect but 2206 01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:10,880 if you aren't receptive and accepting of 2207 01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:13,360 people who want to be helpful in your 2208 01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:14,719 cause 2209 01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:17,360 if nobody can pass the purity test then 2210 01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:19,760 you'll be fighting your fight alone 2211 01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:22,000 and it will probably fail 2212 01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:23,840 we've had this conversation about flat 2213 01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:25,760 earthers too they draw this line in the 2214 01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:28,000 sand where if you're not a flat earther 2215 01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,840 then you're a shill and you're not on 2216 01:11:32,750 --> 01:11:31,440 our side well 2217 01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:32,760 did covid 2218 01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:34,960 re-organize your priorities has the 2219 01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:36,960 world economic forum made it seem a 2220 01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,280 little more important to be on the same 2221 01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,960 page with this sort of stuff than the 2222 01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,480 shape of the world 2223 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:44,159 because i'm still here 2224 01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,840 willing to find that common ground with 2225 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:47,520 you guys 2226 01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:49,840 but coveted lockdowns is a great example 2227 01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,159 when i was desperately looking for some 2228 01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,239 resistance to all these tyrannical 2229 01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:57,120 policies across my city 2230 01:12:02,229 --> 01:12:00,000 i didn't expect it to be churches 2231 01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,239 but there you go imperfect allies you've 2232 01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:04,320 heard me talk not so kindly about 2233 01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:06,880 organized religion in the past 2234 01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,199 but they were for vaccine freedom and 2235 01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:11,199 committed to human interactions and 2236 01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:13,679 public gatherings so i let the small 2237 01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:16,560 stuff that i didn't like go 2238 01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:19,440 same with a lot of fanatical trump folks 2239 01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:21,280 even some of our guests they do great 2240 01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:23,040 research they have good arguments but 2241 01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,719 then they have to throw in some big 2242 01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:27,440 daddy don comments and i just roll my 2243 01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:29,199 eyes and move on 2244 01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,040 who cares 2245 01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:33,760 these issues of masks and mandates and 2246 01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:36,719 lockdowns were way more important to me 2247 01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:39,920 than churches and politics 2248 01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,280 so i took 2249 01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:43,440 imperfect allies wherever they were i 2250 01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:45,360 think allison needs to reconsider what 2251 01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:48,159 her real priority is 2252 01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:50,560 if it's to educate enough people to the 2253 01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,360 nefarious plans of these folks and how 2254 01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:55,199 digital technology and this new 2255 01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:56,400 infrastructure is going to be 2256 01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:58,719 instrumental and all of that 2257 01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,280 does ranting about me and derek help 2258 01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:03,520 that cause or heard it 2259 01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:05,679 she obviously doesn't need us but we 2260 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,440 really should be on the same side here 2261 01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:10,480 we can all be helpful 2262 01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,159 but it's definitely not the first time a 2263 01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:14,560 person has enjoyed doing interviews with 2264 01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:16,080 me more than one 2265 01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:19,360 and we're happy to promote their work on 2266 01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,040 the show and gain access to our 2267 01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:23,520 listeners and then suddenly broke bad 2268 01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:25,360 and had some kind of problem with me and 2269 01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:28,320 went on public rants about it 2270 01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:29,920 john brisson would be the other one that 2271 01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,520 comes to mind 2272 01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:34,080 and if i'm so bad why did i give you one 2273 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,080 of the most informed and dedicated 2274 01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,320 interviews ever and why did you come 2275 01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,560 back for another one 2276 01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:42,719 in both cases with john and allison we 2277 01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,800 did two interviews 2278 01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:47,040 and it feels a bit more like now that 2279 01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:48,719 you've captured the audience from the 2280 01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:49,679 show 2281 01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,520 you get a whole new kind of attention by 2282 01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:53,520 trying to slam me 2283 01:13:57,229 --> 01:13:55,840 and the commonality in both cases the 2284 01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:57,239 issue that they took was a 2285 01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:00,880 misunderstanding of tool use i accept 2286 01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:03,840 crypto for thc plus because i will take 2287 01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,679 it any way i can get it 2288 01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:07,440 i don't want it to be hard i just want 2289 01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:09,520 it to be reciprocal 2290 01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:12,640 i have bartered for wire wrapped jewelry 2291 01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:15,120 i barter for astrology readings i have 2292 01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:16,400 deals with two different coffee 2293 01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:18,080 companies where they send me a big bag 2294 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,920 of beans every year 2295 01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:22,000 and i plug them in for another 12 months 2296 01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:23,280 a plus 2297 01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:24,960 if you want to give me bitcoin or 2298 01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:27,600 ethereum that's fine 2299 01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:29,199 but well because the bad guys are going 2300 01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:31,600 to be using blockchain all crypto is bad 2301 01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,800 and if you use it then you're bad 2302 01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:36,719 and in john's case he heard me talking 2303 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,040 about trying some magical rituals for 2304 01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:40,960 manifestation 2305 01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:43,679 and because the bad guys use magic all 2306 01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:46,960 magic is bad and so i'm bad 2307 01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:49,920 it really is the same flawed simplistic 2308 01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,640 logic in both cases funny how that works 2309 01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:53,920 out 2310 01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:56,320 but these are intense and stressful 2311 01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,920 times and i don't want to pretend that 2312 01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,239 i'm immune to it either i get as [\h__\h] 2313 01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:02,320 as ever to tell you the truth 2314 01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:04,480 i feel sorry for my wife sometimes i can 2315 01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:06,320 be a real downer when i get off some of 2316 01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,159 these heavier interviews or when i'm 2317 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,360 preparing for them and i just try really 2318 01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,679 hard to keep it all in check and i don't 2319 01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:16,080 do much posting online at all except for 2320 01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,040 the work so my embarrassing behavior is 2321 01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,280 relegated to the home 2322 01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:23,600 i'm half kidding there but i will 2323 01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:25,760 acknowledge it's been harder to be my 2324 01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:27,120 best self 2325 01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:28,320 lately 2326 01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:30,400 and i'm sure i'm not alone 2327 01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:32,239 but all that said i hope you dug this 2328 01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:34,800 one in the second hour we did throw out 2329 01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,040 a few other creative solution side 2330 01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:38,960 things that i've seen derek covering 2331 01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:42,239 like detroit soup which is really great 2332 01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:43,679 and then we got deeper into the big 2333 01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:45,920 machine their plans and his really 2334 01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:49,120 impressive pyramid of power series some 2335 01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:52,000 elements of all that would be the monkey 2336 01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:53,920 pox operation 2337 01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,120 dissecting the digital id plan 2338 01:16:02,149 --> 01:15:59,520 we discussed some child abuse child 2339 01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,159 trafficking news with 2340 01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:04,480 an investigation that's going on 2341 01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:07,040 from the utah county sheriff's office as 2342 01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:10,159 well as galen maxwell's sentencing 2343 01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:12,239 we talked about the fashion industry to 2344 01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:15,360 sex abuse pipeline a vice hit piece that 2345 01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,679 was done on derrick and then we tried to 2346 01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:19,280 squeeze in 2347 01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:21,280 at least a little bit about that very 2348 01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:23,760 thorough and impressive pyramid of power 2349 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,880 series it's great educational material 2350 01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:28,640 and there's certainly going to be 2351 01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,000 details that even the die hards 2352 01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:34,719 wouldn't be familiar with so i certainly 2353 01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:37,120 give that the full carl wood stamp of 2354 01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:38,880 approval it is 2355 01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,239 great stuff 2356 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:42,320 as always you know the deal sign up for 2357 01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:46,320 plus get a free 7-day trial so you know 2358 01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:48,560 that it works with your apps and that 2359 01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,960 you can conveniently get the second hour 2360 01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:52,560 and that you enjoy it 2361 01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:54,400 i don't know why you wouldn't you only 2362 01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:57,440 hear half the show sticking with the 2363 01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:59,600 free hour but this is the name of the 2364 01:17:04,229 --> 01:17:00,719 game 2365 01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:04,239 no advertisers no sponsorships 2366 01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:06,239 just me and you baby 2367 01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:07,870 and let's look at the meetup calendar 2368 01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:09,040 [Music] 2369 01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:11,360 in the month of august we've got again 2370 01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:14,560 the milwaukee metaphysical society 2371 01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:18,320 in milwaukee oregon that is august 13th 2372 01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,239 coming up this weekend 2373 01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:22,560 also the 13th we have strange chats 2374 01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,120 kansas city north kansas city missouri 2375 01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:27,920 at big rip brewing company 2376 01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:30,239 and also this weekend on the 13th we 2377 01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,159 have a meet up at the oroville 2378 01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:34,000 washington 2379 01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:36,239 brick house brewery 2380 01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:38,800 then august 17th we have 2381 01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:41,920 a new jersey conspiracy group meeting up 2382 01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:44,800 in paramus new jersey 2383 01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,480 out of panera bread 2384 01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:48,560 i like that my wife used to work at 2385 01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:50,800 panera bread back in the day 2386 01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:53,280 kind of funny but i do also like when 2387 01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:55,760 people support local independently owned 2388 01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:57,920 businesses for these types of things but 2389 01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,719 hey 2390 01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,640 i don't make the rules i just make a few 2391 01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,320 suggestions 2392 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:04,719 and then august 22nd i see this just got 2393 01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:08,320 added sunset by the vast conspiracy 2394 01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,679 venice beach in venice california 2395 01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,679 very interesting 2396 01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:16,080 looking at my calendar that is a monday 2397 01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:18,159 and sadly i have an interview the next 2398 01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,000 morning so i'm going to be preparing for 2399 01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:22,080 that but otherwise i'd consider driving 2400 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,000 up to venice beach 2401 01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:25,520 i like to see it 2402 01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,719 august 27th the london 2403 01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,480 thc meetup 2404 01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:32,880 still looking to confirm that venue they 2405 01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:35,679 have not updated the event i hope they 2406 01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:38,159 do soon because 2407 01:18:41,830 --> 01:18:40,159 the place you go is kind of an important 2408 01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:41,840 piece of the puzzle but 2409 01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:44,480 he does say he's tossing 2410 01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,000 the idea around of going to 2411 01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,880 some pubs in king's cross 2412 01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:53,199 covent garden or the 2413 01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,480 camden area 2414 01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:55,679 so 2415 01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:57,280 that's probably where it will be but it 2416 01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:00,080 is best to just pick a place put it on 2417 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,080 the posting and let the people come 2418 01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:06,480 and that's what we got for august so far 2419 01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:09,120 not bad not bad better than previous 2420 01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,640 months but 2421 01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:12,640 there's a lot of listeners out there in 2422 01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:15,280 a lot of locations and i don't see why 2423 01:19:19,790 --> 01:19:18,320 we shouldn't have way more events 2424 01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,800 anyone can go to 2425 01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:21,520 highersidemeetups.com and make an 2426 01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:23,520 account create a free event and start 2427 01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:25,199 working on local solutions with 2428 01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:28,159 like-minded people right in your area 2429 01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:30,159 i think we're due for a san diego one 2430 01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:33,280 myself so maybe i'll get on that but 2431 01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:35,760 that's the show i hope you're motivated 2432 01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:38,080 if you weren't before i hope you got a 2433 01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:40,080 couple of resources that might be useful 2434 01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:42,320 for you and i hope you're charged up by 2435 01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:44,080 seeing that we don't have to just sit 2436 01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:45,679 around and wait for these nefarious 2437 01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:47,520 plans to be implemented 2438 01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:49,760 we can engage with these solution 2439 01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,480 oriented counter measures right now we 2440 01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:54,960 can support the right food suppliers we 2441 01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:57,360 can cover our digital tracks 2442 01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:00,640 and we can rally around bodily autonomy 2443 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:03,600 and get over our smaller differences 2444 01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:05,440 in the name of the greater good the 2445 01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,719 greater reset as derek would say 2446 01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,480 but i'm getting out of here tell derek 2447 01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:12,719 you liked it if you did let him know you 2448 01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:15,679 were fired up and inspired and see where 2449 01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,120 you can help out 2450 01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:19,600 i've done my part your move digital 2451 01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:21,520 dystopia builders self-appointed 2452 01:20:26,290 --> 01:20:23,600 management class cronies and world 2453 01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:26,300 economic forum freaks 2454 01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:33,830 sometimes when i get down i eat a bunch 2455 01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:36,400 of corporate junk 2456 01:20:43,350 --> 01:20:40,320 process stuff that makes you fat 2457 01:20:44,450 --> 01:20:43,360 yeah it's a week and sickly people make 2458 01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:44,460 an industry 2459 01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:45,520 [Applause] 2460 01:21:05,830 --> 01:20:47,920 don't tell me 2461 01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:08,260 that's right 2462 01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:21,750 got an addiction to the digital 2463 01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:23,679 technology 2464 01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:26,800 and every now and then i try to quit and 2465 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:30,480 leave it be but it's too hard to turn it 2466 01:21:35,770 --> 01:22:14,310 [Music] 2467 01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:18,030 don't tell me 2468 01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:40,390 expanding off the big conspiracy 2469 01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:43,520 and every one of them has got a couple 2470 01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:45,199 of hooks into me 2471 01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,239 trying to forget and i ignore but i'm 2472 01:22:53,690 --> 01:22:50,639 just out of luck 2473 01:23:07,830 --> 01:22:53,700 but i don't have to tell you that 2474 01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:07,840 [Music] 2475 01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,639 and that is another show complete 2476 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:12,560 remember as much as you enjoyed this 2477 01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:14,880 which is just the free first hour i hope 2478 01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:16,639 you'll become a plus member to hear the 2479 01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:18,560 full 2 hour interviews 2480 01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:20,560 you also can engage with other plus 2481 01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,199 members in the comments and the forums 2482 01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:24,719 and you'll find your answer to one of 2483 01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,719 the most common questions i get which is 2484 01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,560 where can i find those cover songs that 2485 01:23:33,189 --> 01:23:30,480 you use at the end of the show well they 2486 01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,199 are free downloads for plus members too 2487 01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,199 and without plus members i can't hire 2488 01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:37,120 the occasional musician to bring these 2489 01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,760 odd cover song ideas to fruition 2490 01:23:43,430 --> 01:23:41,600 plus members are how i'm able to do what 2491 01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,440 i do without ads and without the big 2492 01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:45,360 machine being on my back 2493 01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:47,520 we can fit so much more into a two-hour 2494 01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:49,440 interview and i do my best to make it 2495 01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:51,600 worth your time and money the 2496 01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,159 conversation only gets deeper weirder 2497 01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,400 and more controversial in that private 2498 01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:58,480 hour how could it not the way things are 2499 01:24:01,629 --> 01:23:59,360 going 2500 01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:01,639 but the best way to sign up is that at 2501 01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:03,360 thehiresidechats.com where new 2502 01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:05,920 first-time subscribers always get a free 2503 01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:08,080 seven-day trial because i'm just that 2504 01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:10,400 confident there's no paypal on the 2505 01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:12,480 website but if you need to use paypal 2506 01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:14,480 then sign up through patreon and you get 2507 01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:17,120 all the same episodes our website is a 2508 01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,120 credit or debit system but you can also 2509 01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:21,040 scope out the other options like a few 2510 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,000 various cryptos cash or check mail to 2511 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:26,320 the po box and i'll even barter with 2512 01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:27,760 most people if you have your own 2513 01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:29,679 business and produce something nice that 2514 01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,880 my wife or kid or taste buds might like 2515 01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,040 but the architects of consensus reality 2516 01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,880 have made it clear that these themes and 2517 01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:38,800 topics aren't really welcome on the main 2518 01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,440 stage and so this is how we secure a 2519 01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,120 little counterculture corner for 2520 01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:45,280 ourselves and i hope you'll join plus 2521 01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:48,000 because that is the only way it works 2522 01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:50,480 besides you can cancel any time right on 2523 01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,880 your profile page the most common 2524 01:24:57,430 --> 01:24:54,960 concern i hear is people just being 2525 01:24:59,830 --> 01:24:57,440 unsure if thc plus will work with their 2526 01:25:02,629 --> 01:24:59,840 podcast app and the answer is probably 2527 01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,639 yes but if not we have several high 2528 01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:04,719 level app recommendations for whatever 2529 01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:06,800 phone you use and the website is made 2530 01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,280 for mobile too we're trained to tip a 2531 01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:11,040 waitress for bringing us a sandwich but 2532 01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:12,880 that tip doesn't give you access to a 2533 01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,520 second sandwich really i'm not asking 2534 01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:17,120 for any more than that and i think i 2535 01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:19,040 offer a better service come get your 2536 01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:21,120 second serving of tasty conspiracy 2537 01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:22,960 goodness in exchange for that small 2538 01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:25,600 token of your appreciation beyond that 2539 01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:27,600 let it also be known that we have grown 2540 01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,679 and survived as long as we have by word 2541 01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,719 of mouth 2542 01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:32,719 i don't care so much about social media 2543 01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:34,880 likes or follows but tell the right 2544 01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,800 people about thc 2545 01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,560 and not just listeners but the high 2546 01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:40,560 level figures who are better suited to 2547 01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:43,199 sit down with me than most other hosts 2548 01:25:46,709 --> 01:25:44,719 and if you can help me with any of these 2549 01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,719 things i can work to bring you better 2550 01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:48,800 shows which is just a win-win for both 2551 01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:49,679 of us 2552 01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:51,520 informative entertaining and 2553 01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:54,080 action-packed it also never hurts to 2554 01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:55,679 thank a guest you liked if you have the 2555 01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,679 time either we want them to know people 2556 01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:59,120 are listening so they're willing to come 2557 01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,360 back down the road too thank you for